MIB ROTJ AT-ST?

[Discobob83]

Hi All,

Just bought one of these intending to keep it, but need the funds, so thinking about flipping it.

Stickers unapplied. (Sticker sheet and instruction sheet mint - no creases, edge wear or discolouration) Canopy still in sealed bag.

Vehicle is mint no discolouration at all.

Box has all original inserts and is in excellent, near mint condition. There is some slight edgwear along one edge (a few white dots) and the tab for the top flap has slight tearing straight along the seam where it is tabulated.

Obviously exact details are important and photos would help. Just wondering what a ballpark figure is for an item like this?

Thanks in advance.

-Jeremy

 

[itfciain]

I would think you would be looking in the region of about £50

 

[TwistedMetal]

Between £50.00 and £60.00 mate.

 

[Capetown]

Which box variant is it? If it's the common European (non-kenner) version, £50 sounds about right.

 

[Discobob83]

Ok cool. Thanks guys.

So, the difference between mint/unused and reasonable condition doesn't effect value as much on these as some other stuff? (complete/boxed is usually £35 or so on ebay even in just fair, used condition?) Is that just because they'e more common?

I'm not doubting the valuation. I figured it was about that based on another one I found for sale. (and that's what I paid for this one.) I'd just always thought the rarity of finding an item in such good condition would effect the value more than it does(?) (More than it does with the AT-ST anyway.) This is certainly the best condition boxed vehicle that has come into my posession.

I've also got a Palitoy ESB 'Slave 1' I want to sell. The vehicle is very nice c8.5/c9 condition. (All stickers, parts etc. Very minimal wear, no notable marks/discolouration.) The box has quite a lot of wear (On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being mint and 1 being scraps of card, it's probably a 6/7, but there's a fair amount of wear). There's one of these on ebay with a fairly nice box for £85, so I was figuring about £45, maybe £50 for mine? Not sure how much the condition of the box should effect the value?

Actually while I'm asking, I have a loose modern shuttle I want to sell as well. I know it's modern, but I'm struggling to ascertain which release it is? (There are at least 2 modern releases...are they both the same actual vehicle? i.e. the 2002 'Saga' release?) Also, does anyone know why it has the 1984 date stamp on it?

Thanks in advance for any help. I really appreciate it.

-J

 

[Discobob83]

Which box variant is it? If it's the common European (non-kenner) version, £50 sounds about right.

Hi Emiel,

It's the Euro release yeah.

As I say, I'm not doubting this valuation at all. I'm just surprised that the difference in value between a decent one and an exceptional one isn't higher. I suppose with them being fairly common, it's probably just easier to find minty examples of these than some other vintage stuff?

-J

 

[itfciain]

Which box variant is it? If it's the common European (non-kenner) version, £50 sounds about right.

Hi Emiel,

It's the Euro release yeah.

As I say, I'm not doubting this valuation at all. I'm just surprised that the difference in value between a decent one and an exceptional one isn't higher. I suppose with them being fairly common, it's probably just easier to find minty examples of these than some other vintage stuff?

-J

Thats pretty much spot on I think - for me this is one of the easier boxed items to find

 

[Discobob83]

Which box variant is it? If it's the common European (non-kenner) version, £50 sounds about right.

Hi Emiel,

It's the Euro release yeah.

As I say, I'm not doubting this valuation at all. I'm just surprised that the difference in value between a decent one and an exceptional one isn't higher. I suppose with them being fairly common, it's probably just easier to find minty examples of these than some other vintage stuff?

-J

Thats pretty much spot on I think - for me this is one of the easier boxed items to find

Yep. It makes sense.

Value is a weird thing anyway. Often people will pay 70% of what they'd need to pay for a C9 example of something to buy a C6 example.

There's two ways of looking at this. For the average collector on a budget, you need to make those kind of compromises in order to try and assemble a decent sized collection (with examples of all the stuff you want to collect.)

On the flip side, you could argue that you end up with a collection that 40% or 50% larger, but none of the items are as displayable (or potentially as satisfying to own) as in the hypothetical smaller C9 collection.

Neither of these approaches is right/wrong, it just depends on what brings the individual the most joy.

I guess there's a point, based on the rarity of the item and the rarity of the condition of that item, where your probable buyer moves away from one demographic and into another. But the pool of collectors who have greater disposable income and are looking for mint items only is much smaller. So items such as the AT-ST, which aren't as hard to get, are probably already owned in top condition by the vast majority of these types of collectors (at least the ones that actually want this item in their collection.)

As a result, the difference in price based on condition isn't as great, because the choosier buyers don't need to compete for the display pieces?

Phew, that was a wordy and awkward way of trying to say something quite simple. I think that makes approx sense though?

-J

 

[TwistedMetal]

I did see one of these that was unopened sell for £110.00 on eBay, I missed out on it by £8.00

 

[TwistedMetal]

Just sold mine tonight for £72.00 if that helps.

 

[Capetown]

Yep. It makes sense.

Value is a weird thing anyway. Often people will pay 70% of what they'd need to pay for a C9 example of something to buy a C6 example.

There's two ways of looking at this. For the average collector on a budget, you need to make those kind of compromises in order to try and assemble a decent sized collection (with examples of all the stuff you want to collect.)

On the flip side, you could argue that you end up with a collection that 40% or 50% larger, but none of the items are as displayable (or potentially as satisfying to own) as in the hypothetical smaller C9 collection.

Neither of these approaches is right/wrong, it just depends on what brings the individual the most joy.

I guess there's a point, based on the rarity of the item and the rarity of the condition of that item, where your probable buyer moves away from one demographic and into another. But the pool of collectors who have greater disposable income and are looking for mint items only is much smaller. So items such as the AT-ST, which aren't as hard to get, are probably already owned in top condition by the vast majority of these types of collectors (at least the ones that actually want this item in their collection.)

As a result, the difference in price based on condition isn't as great, because the choosier buyers don't need to compete for the display pieces?

Phew, that was a wordy and awkward way of trying to say something quite simple. I think that makes approx sense though?

-J

You've hit the nail on the head I think Jeremy, though sometimes new MIB collectors emerge and the biddings go up (like what happened to scott).

 

[Discobob83]

I did see one of these that was unopened sell for £110.00 on eBay, I missed out on it by £8.00

Cheers guys! Really grateful for the input. I actually saw that listing; nice item! (congrats on the sale!)

Based on that, I think I might try putting mine on ebay with a BIN of either £70 or £75 and see how it goes.

Thanks again!

-J

P.S. Will be asking for more help later. Got some figures in today including a handful of baggies. I know nothing about baggies at all, so will need help confirming they are legit etc.

 

[Dark Sith Lord]

Hey Jeremy contact Frank (frunkstar) he is Mr Baggie.

 

[TwistedMetal]

Just some advice mate, i have found through listing things at a bin price, people don`t seem that interested, even in the past i have say listed a carded figure at say £22.00 and nobody buys it, yet then if i put it too auction (not making the mistakes i have done in the past, i.e listing it too early in the morning) the same item would sell for over £30.00. Also one main thing i have noticed over the last year on ebay, if you have say several boxed items for sale, provide nice pics, be as honest as poss they actually sell for alot more than if you only had one item for sale, this im sure is also because more buyers are looking at overall what you have for sale im sure, but anyway thought this info may help.

 

[Discobob83]

Hey Jeremy contact Frank (frunkstar) he is Mr Baggie.

OK. Will do! (Thanks Mate!!)

 

[Discobob83]

Just some advice mate, i have found through listing things at a bin price, people don`t seem that interested, even in the past i have say listed a carded figure at say £22.00 and nobody buys it, yet then if i put it too auction (not making the mistakes i have done in the past, i.e listing it too early in the morning) the same item would sell for over £30.00. Also one main thing i have noticed over the last year on ebay, if you have say several boxed items for sale, provide nice pics, be as honest as poss they actually sell for alot more than if you only had one item for sale, this im sure is also because more buyers are looking at overall what you have for sale im sure, but anyway thought this info may help.

That's interesting about having more stuff listed. I was just beginning to wonder the same thing myself. I've let the amount of stuff I have listed dwindle lately and sales have really slowed exponentially.

I'm not sure about the auction thing. To be fair, I haven't even tried auctions in a couple of years, but when I used to use the format, 9 times out of 10 the item would sell for less than the BIN price I would otherwise have asked. Occassionally an auction listing would sell for notably higher than I would have asked as a BIN, but not enough to negate the aggregate losses of all the other auctions.

I agree completely abut being as honest as possible and use loads of large pictures. (I still have 100% feedback approaching the 1000 mark) I just don't want disappointed buyers. In fact, in photographing my AT-ST earlier today I noticed a blue mark on one side of the head, so I won't be asking for the £70 - £75 after all. (I took a clear photo of the mark and will specifically mention it in the listing.)

This is definitely something I shall ponder (I have quite a lot of stuff I could really do with listing) and I certianly appreciate the input. (I think it's always very useful to hear from other people with experience of selling.) Many thanks!

-J