Make an offer, BEST Harrison Ford aurtograph EVER SEEN

[pmsbull]

Thanks for wading in my defense Lee. Much appreciated , especially as you didn't have to put your head above the parapet and subject yourself to any flack over this. Kinda shows what a genuine stand up guy you are.

As for the pricing on this - the signature is beyond doubt the best and cleanest seen on the market in decades - and that comes from people that have collected Ford for over 20 years.

Please look at any of the Ford signatures that are being sold now - and see the prices they go for for a officially licensed and COA backed up piece of SCRATCHY **** that would probably be dismissed by any professional appraiser worth the name.

No this does NOT come with any COA as it was found in the wild, but as anyone that knows autographs will tell you - ANYONE can issue a COA and they are basically nothing more than used toilet paper - (and just check the UACC and AFTAL and PSA/DNA societies advice if you doubt that) - the seller's record and reputation are what counts.

So, price was a punt to grab attention and create a buzz around it - simple marketing ploy that worked well when I used to work in sales and DESTROY my targets every month.

It works, because I already have decent offers.

So please, dismiss all you want, but both the market and people that have substantial collections, and even bigger reputations, agree with me. It IS genuine, it IS rare, and it IS very valuable.

If you would like to make an offer, please email me at ps002k4284@blueyonder.
Item will be securely packed and insured, or if you are in the North East I can hand deliver it or you can collect.

Thanks. Hope this brings an end to any in-fighting here.

 

[Grant_C]

Buddy you have to understand that we get people on here weekly that try to peddle fake ****.

If you have a reputation as a autograph collector- it's not here. It does help that Lee can back you up, but its a lot of money so people are going to be suspicious.

Did Ford change his autograph from writing his full name in the early days to what it is now?

 

[pmsbull]

Buddy you have to understand that we get people on here weekly that try to peddle fake ****.

If you have a reputation as a autograph collector- it's not here. It does help that Lee can back you up, but its a lot of money so people are going to be suspicious.

Did Ford change his autograph from writing his full name in the early days to what it is now?

Thanks for the reply mate - I appreciate it and TOTALLY understand the concern.

I have been collecting Star Wars items for decades and am OBSESSED with it ever since childhood.
Of course. like everyone else, I grew up and gave my stuff away -and I had EVERYTHING !

Spent the last God knows how many years trying to get it all back, lol.

I totally understand about the fake thing - believe me, I learned my lesson on that a long time ago -
I bet EVERYONE has been burned at some time buy the cunts that are out there.

Incidents like the Moser Ford or Toy Toni scandal just serve to devalue the hobby and scare the living **** out of everyone that wants to invest their hard earned cash and I would like to bet that probably 75% of people that have Palitoy have been ****ed by Toni somewhere along the line as he has been at it for years and there will be many people that have too much invested in a piece to want to believe the truth.

I scored this piece beyond cheap, but that does not in any way detract from it's REAL value, and as said, with the wife being made redundant I need to get as much as I can.

For example, if you grabbed a pristine MOC 12A back Darth Vader with a sku footer worth an AFA or UKG 85 grading for pennies and wanted to sell it, and nobody believed it was real because you don't have it graded, how would you react?

Did Ford change his autograph from writing his full name in the early days to what it is now?

Yes, it has changed DRAMATICALLY over the years. This signature is what he used to sign back then, when he actually CARED about his autograph and before it just became a cash machine to him.

If you are lucky, he might actually take the time to do a decent one but very rarely and STILL nowhere near this. I actually have 2 other Fords from different eras - one similar to this and one that I have had framed up on the wall of my office ( I work from home)


If you consult some of the more well respected and experienced collectors, they will show you numerous variations in Ford's signature year on year as it degrades, and it continues to now.

There are some TERRIBLE scratches out there, that look like a five year old kid signed them - BUT they are real and people are paying hundreds for them.

Take that into account and you can see my item is vastly superior. The last autograph of this size and quality that I know of was on an ESB lobby card and sold for around £4 grand!

 

[_Lee_]

Buddy you have to understand that we get people on here weekly that try to peddle fake ****.

If you have a reputation as a autograph collector- it's not here. It does help that Lee can back you up, but its a lot of money so people are going to be suspicious.

Did Ford change his autograph from writing his full name in the early days to what it is now?

Grant,nice reply mate 8)

Ford changed his autograph as you mentioned.You can find a lot of early items like this one,and there are a few Revenge pieces going about with this full signature.Ive seen some bizarre Fords over the years,that have been accompanied by photographic proof etc and they are awful.He now signs as per the items Gary showed from his IP meeting with Ford.Even OP and Coolwaters items only have this signature.I have seen photos signed with his full name,but he RARELY does it.People pay OP $4-500 for 8x10,s etc signed with this shortened signature and in my eyes this example blows them all out of the water,and it will command good money.You only have to see what people pay for Eddie byrne,Alex McCrindle and Peter Cushing signed pieces to realise the worth of such things.Ok,they are all deceased but even Byrne and MCrindle go for £6-700 on a scrappy piece of paper.Cushing on a Star Wars pics or poster is easily upwards of £500-it is insane.I even knowof one guy who found a signed Morris Bush photo (denger actor) who found it for peanuts,and it is probably the only one known.

Ford full sigs command a premium,even on index cards,on scrap paper.there are buyers for these things,like there are buyers for carded action figures.

 

[pmsbull]

Buddy you have to understand that we get people on here weekly that try to peddle fake ****.

If you have a reputation as a autograph collector- it's not here. It does help that Lee can back you up, but its a lot of money so people are going to be suspicious.

Did Ford change his autograph from writing his full name in the early days to what it is now?

Grant,nice reply mate 8)

Ford changed his autograph as you mentioned.You can find a lot of early items like this one,and there are a few Revenge pieces going about with this full signature.Ive seen some bizarre Fords over the years,that have been accompanied by photographic proof etc and they are awful.He now signs as per the items Gary showed from his IP meeting with Ford.Even OP and Coolwaters items only have this signature.I have seen photos signed with his full name,but he RARELY does it.People pay OP $4-500 for 8x10,s etc signed with this shortened signature and in my eyes this example blows them all out of the water,and it will command good money.You only have to see what people pay for Eddie byrne,Alex McCrindle and Peter Cushing signed pieces to realise the worth of such things.Ok,they are all deceased but even Byrne and MCrindle go for £6-700 on a scrappy piece of paper.Cushing on a Star Wars pics or poster is easily upwards of £500-it is insane.I even knowof one guy who found a signed Morris Bush photo (denger actor) who found it for peanuts,and it is probably the only one known.

Ford full sigs command a premium,even on index cards,on scrap paper.there are buyers for these things,like there are buyers for carded action figures.

Thanks for the reply - appreciate it.

just for some more background into me and who I am....

I am an experienced writer/freelancer/author and music journalist.
In that capacity, I have been published in national news press both in the UK
and abroad, in magazines that any metal head will know, and have met and
hung out with many major recording artists while interviewing and reviewing them.

I used to be a contributing editor for a webzine called Komodo Rock where I would
regularly see 20,000+ hits per month on items I wrote, and we were industry connected
and growing to rival the likes of Blabbermouth and Bravewords before the owner got caught
torrenting and other naughty things, and was forced to close the site.

I did articles on people like Whitesnake, Queensryche, Iron Maiden; interviewed world famous
artists like guitarists Paul Gilbert (MR BIG) and Thonmas Youngblood (Kamelot) and Dave
Meniletti ( Y&T ) to nema just a few people.

As you can imagine, I have a **** LOAD of super cool items from these people.

For instance - a signed original vinyl of Straight Shooter (Bad Co) from Paul Rodgers,
one of only five copies in the world of Queenwsryche's Operation Mindcrime signed
by the ENTIRE cast, one of a limited edition of 12 laminates signed by the band
Heaven and Hell ( Dio / Sabbath ) and other signed Dio items ( I ****ing loved the
man , RIP )

So I guess you could say collecting is my thing, and my office walls are COVERED in this
kind of stuff. I also have several famous people as friends - Mike Estes , former front man
of Lynyrd Skynyrd for example.

Hope this clears things up a bit for people.

 

[plantman]

for the record i did actually laugh when i saw the price, i have no knowledge of autographs or what people are willing to pay, although i did sell my andrew lincoln auto card for £150 which was surprising.

to come on here as a new member selling a £2000 autograph with no background is going to stir comments, can you get autos authenticated? signatures are a breeze to fake i really dont know how they hold value!

 

[itfciain]

I have to say that the guys on here don't tolerate bullshit - your comment about creating a buzz is really designed for things like eBay, FB or Vectis - you won't walk away with a huge amount of credibility if you try that sort of thing on here

That said - it is clearly an interesting piece, and it would be good to see some actual comments from all these experts that think this is such an amazing find

 

[mr_palitoy]

For me, a picture paints a thousand words, so IndianaM's picture with Ford with the teddy bear is priceless.
Whenever I have a celeb encounter I always go for a photo rather than an autograph.



Jason

 

[JFK]

jason show a bit of respect ,you cant call chewwy a teddy !! poor chewwy

 

[pmsbull]

jason show a bit of respect ,you cant call chewwy a teddy !! poor chewwy

LOL

 

[pmsbull]

I have to say that the guys on here don't tolerate bullshit - your comment about creating a buzz is really designed for things like eBay, FB or Vectis - you won't walk away with a huge amount of credibility if you try that sort of thing on here

That said - it is clearly an interesting piece, and it would be good to see some actual comments from all these experts that think this is such an amazing find

bolded and italic so it's easier to read - not to shout

Well I could ask people that have appraised this to comment, but then again that would probably be dismissed by the nay sayers on here, who would probably just say I could get a load of random folks to come on and pretend to be experts but ....

As trust is obviously the issue here, like I said in my original posting :

Bendu approves - and I'm sure most people on here will respect his experience as THE man to go to where Ford is concerned.

To quote zhamlau: this is "About the most complete letter perfect ford graph ive seen from that era"

So rather than take the word of people you don't know, rather than trust a COA or other item that can easily be faked or conjured up - why not take it from three ( counting Lee ) of "your own" so to speak, some of the most respected collectors in the Star Wars collecting community :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

 

[tiefighterboy]

The price is way over the odds for even fords signature. I would not buy this for any amount of money based on your word or the other expert chiming in for your backing. Fakes abound and the community damn well knows it. It is very hard to sell these things even if you know they are the real deal as there has to be a certain amount of trust built within the community or the group of people you are pitching it to....and at this point...I do not think anyone would be catching it. All my autographs have been acquired in person and personalized to me. This is the way I like it. The only other route I would take to obtain autographs would be to either get them direct via mail from the signer, Get them through a genuine autograph representative/dealer, or through someone whom I have trusted for years.

It is far to easy to buy a sharpie, trace and perfect the real signature, then attempt to sell. Unless you are a specialist in the field of authenticating signatures or you are Sherlock Holmes, your opinion, just like mine, is just that....................an opinion.

On a side note: self proclaiming oneself as "Respected"..........is really ****ing annoying and self absorbed.

 

[pmsbull]

The price is way over the odds for even fords signature. I would not buy this for any amount of money based on your word or the other expert chiming in for your backing. Fakes abound and the community damn well knows it. It is very hard to sell these things even if you know they are the real deal as there has to be a certain amount of trust built within the community or the group of people you are pitching it to....and at this point...I do not think anyone would be catching it. All my autographs have been acquired in person and personalized to me. This is the way I like it. The only other route I would take to obtain autographs would be to either get them direct via mail from the signer, Get them through a genuine autograph representative/dealer, or through someone whom I have trusted for years.

It is far to easy to buy a sharpie, trace and perfect the real signature, then attempt to sell. Unless you are a specialist in the field of authenticating signatures or you are Sherlock Holmes, your opinion, just like mine, is just that....................an opinion.

On a side note: self proclaiming oneself as "Respected"..........is really ****ing annoying and self absorbed.

Hang on just a moment - at no time did I self proclaim myself as respected - I stated that the well known people in the collecting community that had looked at this are respected and they are.

Just to rebutt the "buy a sharpie and fake it claims" - this item was signed in ballpoint pen - and I would LOVE to see anyone that could fake the feel and flow of this signature.

According to the seller it was also sold some years through Eastbourne auctions and I doubt they are going to handle fakes, though i have to say I never really followed up on that as the opinions of Bendu , Zamalu and Lee are certainly sufficient for me.

 

[_Lee_]

Just wanted to say that i didnt proclaim myself 'respected' either.I was merely offering advice.I will say this though,Pete is one of the most respected autographers around and anyone into their autographs in a big way will tell you that.It was mostly down to him that Moser got found out aswell.Zhamalu only collects OT vintage cast signed pieces aswell,and clearly knows his stuff.Both of those guys probably have more Fords that many here have carded figures so they have lots to compare to.

Also,you cannot trace an autograph and fakes using this technique will get sussed immediately.Ink flow,speed and movement dictate an autograph IMO and unless you have trained your brain/hand to do that auto you will get found out.Trust me,some guys even know if a hand has left the surface during signing-it is very technical.

 

[plantman]

i personally wouldn't risk £2000 on a signature and i doubt many on here have the spare cash to do so, you might be best on vectis or rebelscum where there are auto collectors, it would be interesting to see points of view on there.

 

[Richard_H]

Buddy you have to understand that we get people on here weekly that try to peddle fake ****.

If you have a reputation as a autograph collector- it's not here. It does help that Lee can back you up, but its a lot of money so people are going to be suspicious.

Did Ford change his autograph from writing his full name in the early days to what it is now?

Grant,nice reply mate 8)

Ford changed his autograph as you mentioned.You can find a lot of early items like this one,and there are a few Revenge pieces going about with this full signature.Ive seen some bizarre Fords over the years,that have been accompanied by photographic proof etc and they are awful.He now signs as per the items Gary showed from his IP meeting with Ford.Even OP and Coolwaters items only have this signature.I have seen photos signed with his full name,but he RARELY does it.People pay OP $4-500 for 8x10,s etc signed with this shortened signature and in my eyes this example blows them all out of the water,and it will command good money.You only have to see what people pay for Eddie byrne,Alex McCrindle and Peter Cushing signed pieces to realise the worth of such things.Ok,they are all deceased but even Byrne and MCrindle go for £6-700 on a scrappy piece of paper.Cushing on a Star Wars pics or poster is easily upwards of £500-it is insane.I even knowof one guy who found a signed Morris Bush photo (denger actor) who found it for peanuts,and it is probably the only one known.

Ford full sigs command a premium,even on index cards,on scrap paper.there are buyers for these things,like there are buyers for carded action figures.

Thanks for the reply - appreciate it.

just for some more background into me and who I am....

I am an experienced writer/freelancer/author and music journalist.
In that capacity, I have been published in national news press both in the UK
and abroad, in magazines that any metal head will know, and have met and
hung out with many major recording artists while interviewing and reviewing them.

I used to be a contributing editor for a webzine called Komodo Rock where I would
regularly see 20,000+ hits per month on items I wrote, and we were industry connected
and growing to rival the likes of Blabbermouth and Bravewords before the owner got caught
torrenting and other naughty things, and was forced to close the site.

I did articles on people like Whitesnake, Queensryche, Iron Maiden; interviewed world famous
artists like guitarists Paul Gilbert (MR BIG) and Thonmas Youngblood (Kamelot) and Dave
Meniletti ( Y&T ) to nema just a few people.

As you can imagine, I have a **** LOAD of super cool items from these people.

For instance - a signed original vinyl of Straight Shooter (Bad Co) from Paul Rodgers,
one of only five copies in the world of Queenwsryche's Operation Mindcrime signed
by the ENTIRE cast, one of a limited edition of 12 laminates signed by the band
Heaven and Hell ( Dio / Sabbath ) and other signed Dio items ( I ****ing loved the
man , RIP )

So I guess you could say collecting is my thing, and my office walls are COVERED in this
kind of stuff. I also have several famous people as friends - Mike Estes , former front man
of Lynyrd Skynyrd for example.

Hope this clears things up a bit for people.

I was a member of Komodo rock and got invited to the "other group" when the torrent stuff kicked off. Never checked in there for a while but did enjoy the reviews.

 

[pmsbull]

Just wanted to say that i didnt proclaim myself 'respected' either.I was merely offering advice.I will say this though,Pete is one of the most respected autographers around and anyone into their autographs in a big way will tell you that.It was mostly down to him that Moser got found out aswell.Zhamalu only collects OT vintage cast signed pieces aswell,and clearly knows his stuff.Both of those guys probably have more Fords that many here have carded figures so they have lots to compare to.

Also,you cannot trace an autograph and fakes using this technique will get sussed immediately.Ink flow,speed and movement dictate an autograph IMO and unless you have trained your brain/hand to do that auto you will get found out.Trust me,some guys even know if a hand has left the surface during signing-it is very technical.

Thanks for chipping in mate.

 

[pmsbull]

I was a member of Komodo rock and got invited to the "other group" when the torrent stuff kicked off. Never checked in there for a while but did enjoy the reviews.

Really? Check your PM's mate - small world !!

Komdo Rock was forced to close after the owner was caught sharing torrents of items he had been sent for reviewing.

A real shitter as there were many people involved there had built up reputations and large readerships and the site profile was rising fast.

I personally had an interview with Alter Bridge lined up, but the site went just a few weeks before they came to the UK so I was forced to pull it as there would have been nowhere to publish the item at short notice, as all the other press had people already covering them.

They were nice enough to still honor my pass so I still got to see the gig, and did meet them afterwards and they signed a few things for me. A really nice bunch of blokes.

 

[pmsbull]

My £35 Harrison Ford signature from September 2013.

No offense intended mate but that is possibly the worst example I have ever seen.
I think your mate might be making promises he cant keep?

 

[fuzzybuzzytoys]

Of course, you could always get one (or two...okay three!) for free in person!

I love this pic. Hope you and the misses are well mate. How's the film going?