Job question - what would you guys do?

[plantman]

well im in two minds what to do, i have a 2nd interview for a new job, but ive been racking my brain if i should take the job (i havnt got it yet) or not, the reasons i want to leave are below, but the job im going for is a step down essentially

1. im very badly underpaid with no option of a rise
2. the company went under 1 year ago and we are chugging along for now
3. i know certain people are on more than me when they clearly shouldn't be

but

1. im my own boss
2. i like the job
3. i can work flexi time whenever i want and work from home
4.come in early and take extra time at the gym ect


the new job

1. is a step down i go back under someone higher than me
2. more work as the users and server increase x10

but

1. its a lot more money
2. a huge company
3. i might get more benefits when i actually get started
4. my own parking space


what do you guys think?

 

[e30318is]

Tough one.

If you have a happy and comfortable life on your current income then why increase the stress for extra money? What would you do with the extra cash?

However if you are on the breadline and have dependants then you have to consider the trade off.

I love my job, I am on a fairly low wage, but I have enough cash to run my car, buy toys and exist.
Sure it would be great to earn more, but seeing as I spend most of my life working I value my happiness over earning (hypothetically) an extra £4k a year.

If I had dependants and a mortgage then I would be more inclined to chase a higher wage.

You will only end up spending it on bloody toys anyway :lol:

 

[plantman]

LOL

i do have kids and a mortgage mate, the things on my mind are the company stability and the fact others are on more than me, and they couldnt afford to increase my wages.

i love the job and the people, but would a bigger more secure company be a better option...more money, maybe chance for promotions ect?

im already as high as i can go where i am...and they pay me less than the marketing manager!

 

[Lee77]

The new job sounds better mate. More money and the rest. Even though you're a bit further down the ladder, you can soon work your way up. The only downside is you're able to work your hours to suit yourself now, but more money should compensate for that.
Plus, if youre gonna be earning more money, you can lower the price of that ROTJ Leia you've got for sale that has been tempting me :lol:

 

[itfciain]

I have a very similar problem.

Company I work for is a splinter of my previous company and is made up of a lot of very good people. I actually persuaded a number of them to leave the old company. Trouble is, we are really struggling to build up a decent trade book and I know that funds are very tight - especially as our investor (who turned into a right twat) has walked away.

I love my job and am also my own boss - but there is a definite chance of going under

I could leave, go work for a big blue chip company and become one of the masses but I know I wouldn't enjoy it as much

My thoughts are that you work to live but have to enjoy what you are doing -so my advice to you is take whichever job you know will make you happy - and that includes the value of the pay packet to your lifestyle

 

[jackabina]

To me mate, the decision would be simple. Take the new job. However, it all depends on what you want. The most important thing for me is providing for my family, job security etc. I think work/life is what you make of it. You may well enjoy the environment you are in, but could you not get that else where?
I suggest asking you wife what her expectations of you are? If you as a family can survive on the money you are on, stay happy mate. Just remember though, opportunities are scarce at the moment.
Where do you want to be in 5 years time? If it's not doing what you're doing now, take the plunge.
Fortune favor's the brave.

 

[PGowdy]

That's a very difficult decision. I think it comes down to so many things. Money over happiness is one of the hardest sums to do. Balance is almost impossible to find especially when you have a wife, kids and a mortgage to look after. And ultimately, those factors are likely to be the deciding ones over your personal comfort and desire not to increase current workload, stress, hours etc. The likely-hood is you already know what you need to do.

 

[plantman]

The thing is i might really enjoy the new job, but if its gash and i cant work under someone else i would have given up a job i liked...

on the flipside i hate being taken for a mug and i could really just kick off about them paying other people more.

cheers for the input guys

 

[silver grin]

For me I would definitely take the new job Andy mate. Has to be all about stability at the minute. Like you've already said, the company has gone under and is just about ticking over... what happens in the next few weeks if whoever is in charge thinks **** it and shuts everything down.

I was in a similar predicament myself (mortgage but no kids so the picture is slightly different) where I left a job that I enjoyed, was good at, friendly colleagues, flexi time however it was never permanent and I just had a 12 month rolling contract. I left it at the end of April for a similar job that was permanent but it means working shifts (6 on, 4 off so not too bad!) but in turn it meant more money! I didn't even think twice.

All the best bud and hope you come to a conclusion... don't forget to really discuss it with the Mrs too!

 

[weasel]

As the others have said it's a tough call, but then you knew that anyway, otherwise you would have made your mind up in no time!

Obviously, I'd wait and see what happens with the second interview.
If they offer you the job, speak to your current company and explain the situation. Tell them you'd like to stay but have been offered more money and you're sick of being paid less than some of the Marketing retards. If they say there is nothing they can do, then so be it. Never hurts to ask. If they offer you a rise, or a rise in a year etc, get it in writting!

I'd also be a bit careful about the new job, it's not unknown for companies to operate a 'last in first out' policy. Not saying they will, but if they need to make redundancies it may be that as the new boy you are deemed the easiest to get rid of. Whereas I assume in your new place, given you're underpaid it may well be that they realise they are getting more than their monies worth from you. Or it could be they just think you're a prick who's worth FA! Lol

It's a toss up between, a job you like with flexi time and a bit of independence, or a new job with more money but the 9-5 grind and some **** nagging in your ears about not having done the 6 hour job he gave you 5 minutes ago!

 

[Josh]

Find out which ones are the cat lovers and take it from there. :lol:

Sorry mate. Can't really offer anything more than what the lads have said. My missus just went through the same thing. Did what Weas has just said basically. Still with her old job. Got a payrise and a bit more incentive to stick around.

 

[weasel]

A mate of mine did the same, had all but accepted a new job, told her boss and he offered her a big pay rise and a reduced work load, and she didn't even have to sleep with him!

 

[plantman]

A mate of mine did the same, had all but accepted a new job, told her boss and he offered her a big pay rise and a reduced work load, and she didn't even have to sleep with him!

Thats what she told you

 

[e30318is]

Lots of great advice for you Andy, top point is to offer your boss sex for a pay rise :wink: :lol:

Best of luck, I reckon you know deep down what is the right decision for you.

One tip I can offer as an employer- if you do attempt to "play off" your current boss against a possible future employer, what ever you do, dont tell your fellow work mates...

You: "Im leaving! Im going to tell the boss!"
Five minutes later....
You: "Im staying! The boss gave me a pay rise!"
Everyone else in your works: "I want a pay rise too!"

I imagine if/when you tell your boss your leaving they will ask you if you have told anyone else, for exactly this reason. You will loose all leverage if you tell the others :wink: