J. Saville

mr_palitoy said:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flight-Bag-Jimll-Fix-it-black-version-Great-for-work-or-school-/300722166200?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_TV_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item46047019b8&_uhb=1#ht_540wt_912

"Flight Bag - Jim'll Fix it - black version - Great for work or school"

:eek:

Jason


If you think thats bad taste check this out

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jimmy-Savile-track-suit-bottoms-bought-at-auction-with-provenance-/140861979442?pt=UK_DVD_Film_TV_TV_Memorabilia_LE&hash=item20cc073b32
 
edd_jedi said:
Yes rather than spark a debate I seem to have unintentionally come across as a Jimmy Saville fan club member and advocate of paedophiles, which obviously I'm not. Next time I'll keep my mouth shut :mrgreen:

Naughty boy Edd... :wink:

Jimmy is in a line of stars from the past that have abused their position of power. More victims will come out of the woodwork and more abusers will be revealed over time, people were more naive (trusting?) to this kind of thing just a few decades ago.

It could well be the case that without 'fame' he would not have become the 'abuser' he did and lived a cleaner life, but power changes people. Using your 'fame' to bed an 18 year old groupie is very different from forcing yourself onto a 14 year old girl, surely he knew the difference too.

As for the charity work, was this done because he was a nice guy, to alleviate his guilt or just to get himself closer to impressionable kids?

I might be jumping on the bandwagon, but come on is it really a question of guilty or not guilty...

or a question of how many more?

We all loved Jimmy as kids as he offered us the chance for our dreams to come true, he abused his position of trust and imo cannot be forgiven. I hear your points Edd, and understand your 'devils advocate' approach, but there is no debate for me on this one.
 
I think we tend to view icons in a perfect bubble, its harrowing to imagine they fiddled with kids, makes me feel sick to be honest.

We all know celebity "parties" go on with coke snorting, orgies, and general living the wild life, but this is just another level. unbelievable.
 
Try watching this now and spewing about his jokes about wrestling at girls schools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBC4JNrybKo&feature=related
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Original-Genuine-Jimll-Fix-It-Medal-Badge-/150919044335?pt=UK_Collectables_Badges_Patches_MJ&hash=item232379dcef&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1162

Now might be a good time to offload your Jim'll Fix It badges...

:eek:

Jason
 
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"Dag Nabit - I could of got away with it if it weren't for those Pesky Kids...!"

:eek:

Jason
 
Jerry Sadowitz from 1987, common knowledge even then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMYK9hqG9jo&feature=watch_response
 
Bloody hell, now John Peel is under scrutiny:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19933274

Obviously not in the same league as Jimmy Saville's allegations, but where do you draw the line? Is a 29 year old sleeping with a willing 15 year old in the 60s really such a surprise? Imagine if every rock and roll 'scandal' from the era became headline news, there'd be nobody left to look up to. I'm sure we've all done things in life we later regret when older and wiser.
 
Sorry to bump this again but if anyones interested Old Jingle Jangles flat is up for sale. Dirty ****er could've kept the carpets clean

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-24000072.html?premiumA=true#?thumbnailId=14
 
I wrote to Mr Saville when I was like 9 or 10. I wanted to meet the A-Team. Fortunately now I didn't get a reply nor did I get to meet the A-Team. :mrgreen:
 
It was only a matter of time...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20162980
 
What I don't understand is why these people, who want to sue, think that taking money that is due to go to charity will make up for the terrible things that this guy did to them
 
Iain you are absolutely right my friend.

What has happened to all these 'innocent' people is very sad, sincerely, BUT we have to be realistic about this. Do we actually KNOW WHY the man in question did these things? And BEFORE ANYONE says something on the lines of "because he's sick in the head" OR "he needs his balls chopped off" how about we look at it from a different angle.

I'm guessing that he did these things because he was taught it when he was a younger child himself. NOW, if this is the case then he is ALSO an innocent victim because he did not understand it was wrong when it was done to him. Then go a bit further back. Whoever did it to him ALSO had it done to them etc etc etc and so forth.

BUT, because, in THIS case, the man in question has 'passed on' so to speak (respecting the ones who are not with us anymore as fellow human beings no matter what!) how will we ever know? We wont so there is no point at all in bringing it up in 'public' in this way. IF we want to 'educate' others so this doesn't happen to them then we need to be true & honest and not say things when we do not have ALL the facts.

How do we stop this line of sadness? Well, 'society' chooses to lock them up for a few years or so and then on release what do they do, go and offend again. What 'society' SHOULD be doing is learn to UNDERSTAND WHY and help them realise it was NOT their fault why they did what they did as they are ALSO innocent therefore leading to helping them understand that what they are doing is now wrong. In tern I am pretty sure this will break the mold so to speak.

We are ALL too quick to 'judge' without understanding and this applies to everything in Life my beautiful Star Wars friends, who have been so much fun and given me so much over the years. Please open your eyes guys. The answers are all around you. You just have to 'want' to find them that's all.

All that said, YES we still live in a monetry system and yes we need to survive so sure do what you feel you need to survive for now but just have faith that in time it will not always be this way. It's getting better as we speak and if you really look around you can see evidence of this for yourself.

We only need to survive and be happy. We can do this all without being 'greedy'.

You can NOT change the past AND by them wanting 'money' for something that has unfortunately happened to them is WRONG as this is a 'sign' of greed... FACT! Why is this fact? BECAUSE if this hadn't happened to them then they would not be sueing, so to speak, and would be finding other ways to make money. But are they finding ways to make money to 'survive' in our 'monetry' system OR making money to gain things they want, i.e. materialistic items and profit basically.

ANYWAY I'm sorry for taking up so much of your time on this 'wall' for writing, sincerely and humbly.

My 19 year old niece passed away at the begging of the year and this has set my triggers off as to what REALLY is important in life my friends.

Now I ask you this... what will it take to set you 'TRIGGERS' off, an incident like the one that has affected my entire family???

WAKE-UP!!!!

I will leave you with these words to take however you wish and IF you wish to, of course, as we are all 'free-spririts' so to speak and have the right to individual opinion. That's the beauty of the Human race. ~:)

Love always

Ham Xx
 
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