Is it wrong to be enjoying this?

Richard_H

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Even in a small way?

Ok context. Wor lasses brother moved in with the local slag (she's pretty smart mind) after flirting online for about 2 weeks. This was about 2 years ago. He left his house (lived alone in a council house) and ditched his girlfriend (who lived in Glasgow and saw every 2 or 3 weeks or so. He needed an address to put down for his bank details etc so we agreed he could have ours. And over the 2 years we've had tonnes of letters for him and bailiffs looking for him. He told us about these debts he left:

£600 ex girlfriend (this I think is disgraceful)
£2500 rent / house repairs
£1500 council tax
£200 virginmedia
£1800 benefit fiddling
£1500 payday loans

As she lives as a single parent she gets her rent, council tax paid for and payments for her 3 kids. (possibly 2 as one is 18) He gets paid monthly and blows it all within a week living the life of extravagance. Last weekend he spent £600 on camping equipment and took the 'family' away for a few days. Come back skint and then as usual sends a text around the 8th of the month asking for a sub till payday.

This pisses me right off as we budget very well and sometimes can't just decide to take the kids to a theme park for a few days at the start of the month. He couldn't do this if he paid anything!

Anyway last month a guy come to the door saying he wanted to know where the brother was. It's our principle that we don't grass for anything - although I'm tempted! He said to pass a message on that they're going for an arrest warrant. Wouldn't say who he was but I assumed council tax as they have quite a few powers. I told him and he said he would ring the guy.

I can't understand why they can't find him at work through his NI number. Anyway, at work the boss asked him to drive a transit down to a supplier who wanted rid of some aluminium pumps. The boss wanted to go to have a chat with someone down there. On the way back they were pulled by the police for a random weight check. the vehicle was 18% overladen and the boss got a fine. Wor lasses brother got a fine too as the driver but the boss said he'd pay it as he made him drive. Fair enough.

However, as the police were checking his licence the spotted that his licence had been revoked. Apparently he had a £30 speeding fine which he ignored too when he moved. This fine is now £1000 and his licence is suspended. So on top of that him and his boss were fined again. He was given 6 points for not having proper documents.
Then a letter arrived - an arrest warrant unless £320 was paid immediately. Very odd the police sending a letter out but I guess he's low priority. I refused to pay it and he said he'd get the boss to pay it as he assumed it was to do with the recent incident. But no! He sold a vehicle about 18 months ago and didn't send the V5 to the DVLA. The boss refused to pay it. As I sit here he is hiding in his home hoping he doesn't get arrested on the way to work next week in order to pa it on Friday.

for me this is his just reward and the start of the issues that he thought he got away with.
 
Bloody hell Richard, seems like you are having a few headaches due to this guy. Are you sure none of this is impacting on your credit ratings etc if he's linked all his bad debt to your address? :? I think you've been remarkably patient about the whole thing - I'd be blowing a gasket if it was me.
 
Just be careful that the bailiffs don't turn up at your door wanting to repossess your(his) stuff.

I have an address in central London and over 3 years I have had dozens of letters for random people using my address
who have never lived there. I've opened a few accidentally. They are always from debt collection agencies looking
to collect on bad loans. I even had to phone one up that was threatening to come round and repossess stuff. Never
open mail that's not got your name on it!

:eek:

Jason
 
I must admit that was one of my biggest worries Jason. I would hit the roof if anyone tried to enter my property. Although tbh I think the dogs would get there first.
 
The other good one I had was with dorothy perkins. They had been sending loads of letters addressed to me at the flat I used to rent out. I only found
all the letters when the tenants moved out. There was like £150 of womens clothing that had been bought on an account using my name and the address
of that flat that had rolled up to about £600 with late fees and fines etc. Took me several phone calls and a couple of letters before they stopped chasing me.
The funny thing was that you also had to provide an email address to open the account and the lady who had committed the fraud had used her own email
address so I was able to find her facebook profile from that in under a minute. Not the fraud dept at dorothy perkins though, who thought I was some kind
of cyberhacker when I told them I was looking at her profile picture on facebook. Idiots!

:)

Jason
 
Rich, this sounds like a whole load of sh*te, i'd be wanting to wipe my hands clean of it all asap
 
Yeah I wouldn't have allowed this in the first place really but Tracey has taken it upon herself to do everything she can to help her brothers. 1 died of a heroin o/d about 7 years ago, another committed suicide about 11 years ago, and she's overly protective of them. We're looking to move in a few years so hopefully it'll have to be sorted by then at the latest. Although I agree I want it sorted now really.
 
Hi Rich

Very commendable mate, at the end of the day everyone is different, and I can see why you have looked to help here.
Unfortunately you've been landed with a heap of issues.

Has the brother took advice, money advice centres etc. Genuinely if he goes with all cards on the table and looks to make amends on debts, they will help, but you can't do it for him!

Debt is a bad bad thing and can really eat away at a person, so fully understand with the background here that there is genuine support from you, albeit very hard and frustrating.

It's easy to say...bollocks to that, I'm not helping, so hats off to you Rich and good luck pal things find a way of working out

All the best with it mate :D
 
Whoah Michael where have you been? Was busy typing a pm to you to see if all was well. Scary!

Trouble is Michael he doesn't want to pay it and is running. He was on an IVA but obviously has messed that up too so there's probably another few thousand to add in there. He's 45 too so should be old enough to take care of himself.
 
Hey mate

I'm always lurking in the background, won't get rid of me that easily :lol:

You won't see a thread from me saying " had enough...selling up"

A. Because I love SW collecting too much
B. Because iv got a load of shite worth £3.50 :lol:


Just pm d you bud :D
 
Family (albeit her family) can be a ****ing pain in the ass.

To me it sounds like you guys have already gone above and beyond the call of duty for him. At his age he should be taking responsibility not running up debts and running away. Eventually this will all catch up with him and he may well end up doing time. Just make sure you and your family aren't going to be dragged down with him.
 
Cc4rhu said:
**** me the twat has just won 2k on the lottery. ****ing twat.

I'm sure he'll be using that to pay back all his debts. :roll: Please don't give this idiot any more money. Ever.
The phrase "helping family" keeps popping up in this thread. I'm failing to see who it is helping.
I had a similar issue with my older brothers kids. Messaging me begging for money and trying the same with my mum. I won't go into why but they were given a firm "no".
And i'm not tight, quite the opposite. I've recently lent one friend 100s as he's temporarily out of work and needed a few quid to tide him over. Don't even care when i get it back, i know he'll pay it when he's back on his feet. I'm always sending my GF a couple of 100 quid as she is constantly running out of money but she works as hard as she can and it's tough being a student and maintaining a near full-time job. And bless her she always pays me back even when i tell her not to. I love to help people out when i can but i can spot a scrounger a million miles off. I have a couple of friends i wouldn't even lend a tenner to and others i wouldn't even ask why if they asked for a grand, i'd wire it that day. Same goes with my family.
 
Not a penny back. And the twat won this over a week ago so is probably skint now. He better of got my kids something for Christmas or there'll be hell to pay.
 
Sounds like a piece of scum to me, hope he gets whats coming to him.

theres a girl who rented a room here but moved back to India, seems she got lots of things without paying and letters keep coming here for her and the landlord said twice bailiffs have turned up, better not fkn get in and take some of my vintage items whilst i am out, thats why i always believe if you are have a contract for something or buying items, then you should have to pay in advance and none of this on tick ****.
 
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