Han Hoth figure, COO reference guide....Updated 1/2/16.

[Pomse2001]

I maybe have some more and will help later. I am busy with the new lots at the moment

Great work :wink:

 

[Dublinjeff]

Looking forward to what you can come up with Lars...I'm sure you have some cool variants 8)

Group shot of the different leg colours:

 

[Dublinjeff]

The many faces of Han Hoth......

 

[Pomse2001]

Never thought about there was many faces for him :shock: cool, maybe we can find more

 

[Dublinjeff]

Yeah, just a selection of a few really. I'd say that there are loads more different paint applications when it comes to the face.

 

[spoons]

just found this thread after listening to the pod cast - great work!

Here's a group shot of the different leg colours (IMO), all Hong Kong COO with moulded on the left and POCH on the right

the photo below shows the Euro 'PBP' pale and pink face variants on the right, and an example of a mix match legs on the left

a non-sonic welded one may be of use to you too - HK brown legs

Love the 31 back you sold - did you know it was a moulded legs too? As a final point the six sided buckle is the first release but also seen on PBP/POCH, and moulded legs all have these buckles (as do some painted).

Keep up the good work

 

[Dublinjeff]

Hi mate,

Fantastic update. Thanks for the input and the great pictures. Really appreciate it

No, I didn't realise that the 31 back was a moulded leg figure :?
Did you get that at the time?

 

[spoons]

Hi mate,

Fantastic update. Thanks for the input and the great pictures. Really appreciate it

No, I didn't realise that the 31 back was a moulded leg figure :?
Did you get that at the time?

No problem, and no I already have one but if I'd seen yours I would have bid

to be fair - I'm only 90% certain. Do you have a close up pic? Here's mine

 

[aussiejames]

Not all 31 backs are moulded leg- IMO only smooth punch /speed hump is

I've not seen a perforated punch version or smooth punch semi circle hang tab as moulded legs.

You can see the long thumb (therefore large copyright) in this 'semi circle hang tab' version

so at least two factories producing the first 10 ESB figures from their debut.

 

[spoons]

Not all 31 backs are moulded leg- IMO only smooth punch /speed hump is

I've not seen a perforated punch version or smooth punch semi circle hang tab as moulded legs.

so at least two factories producing the first 10 ESB figures from their debut.

I wasn't aware of the punch differences James - I usually go by the footer

Non-moulded legs can also be found on the folded footer, which muddies the water. However, I've never seen a moulded legs on a flat footer so I agree there are two factories producing the 31 backs, and I'd hazard a guess that the folded footer factory produced moulded legs first before going to the painted ones. All 31 back Hans should have the heavy eye paint and six sided buckle


Off to check my reference pics for tab differences now

 

[spoons]

now I'm confused - Jeff's pics on the first page both have the same punch (I think) but different footers. The footer and punch on the second one match my moulded legs, but it could still be painted legs.

 

[Pomse2001]

Some great updates Andy and James.

Do you have any good pictures of the blaster on the moc ? Could be cool to see what variant there is on moc ?

 

[spoons]

No problem Lars. I'll try for close ups some time in the next two weeks when I'm on leave, but in the meantime the blaster colours should be clear from these pics although there doesn't seem a lot of variation

31A moulded legs

31A - non moulded legs;flat footer and high punch

32A

41A

41C

41E

45A

47A - Bespin blaster is common on these

48A

48B

48C

48D - with genuine miscarded Stormtrooper blaster unlike the the Palitoy/PBP versions which came as near standard

48D - regular blaster

65B

77A

79A

If its useful I can do a similar post of non-Kenner cards?

 

[Dublinjeff]

:shock: great photos there. Thanks for sharing. Super addition to the thread!

I will try and dig up some pictures of the card I had...

 

[Dublinjeff]

Can't seem to find any pictures of the 31 back card I owned. Will keep digging....

I did come across this figure I once had. I remember getting excited at the time thinking with the Brown legs it might be a 'poch'....turns out it wasn't

 

[spoons]

I'd have said that one is a Palitoy brown leg Jeff - also found on Kaybee two packs, which shows that non-Kenner sources supplied some of those figures

Edd sold me this many moons ago

edit: but the six sided belt buckle and heavy eye paint make me think it is a POCH too but lighter brown than normal.

Why do you say its not POCH?

 

[Dublinjeff]

because that's what I was told at the time...i looked for advice. I actually think i was told it was a Palitoy. It's funny, I always thought it was a POCH but said 'hey, what do I know' at least it was sold on here..!

 

[spoons]

I'm no variant specialist but the brown leg Pal Han has a 5 sided belt and light eyes

The POCHs and early Kenners both would fit - what does Wolff say?

 

[Dublinjeff]

Can't remember. Just trying to find the thread when I asked about it. Think I sold it to June back in 2013...

 

[Dublinjeff]

I'm just sad now .....

Although, that's a sweet two pack!

 

[Dublinjeff]

edit: but the six sided belt buckle and heavy eye paint make me think it is a POCH too but lighter brown than normal.

Why do you say its not POCH?

Funny you mentioned the buckle. Here's an interesting thread from a while ago
http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=14375&hilit=poch+han+hoth#p194776

A comparison shot of the figure I had on the left and the Kenner one!

 

[Dublinjeff]

So does the POCH have 'Made in Hong Kong ' or 'Hong Kong' COO... :?

 

[Dublinjeff]

The figure i had alongside a confirmed POCH...

 

[spoons]

That is a great post - see where I learnt my stuff

My POCH is Made in Hong Kong if that's any help.
Yours does look very similar and definitely isn't the Palitoy one. Wasn't me that told you otherwise was it?

Apologies if so - although as yours is just Homg Kong maybe it is an early Kenner?

 

[Pomse2001]

Wow, great update Andy and Jeff, I can't wait to see pictures of the weapons on those moc. Could be cool to know if some figure variants was sold with some special weapon variants 8)

 

[walkie]

I can confirm that POCH chocolate legs have a MADE IN HONG KONG coo, and he also available with cream legs. Later PBP/Euro varaints all have the MADE IN scar, of which there are numerous types of scarring.

 

[poncho]

I like that choclate leg variant gonna add that to my my wish list. Great guide jeff

 

[Dublinjeff]

Thanks for the information Stefan

Glad you are enjoying the guide Poncho..

 

[poncho]

Will you be selling the overated but cool moulded han?

 

[Dublinjeff]

Sorry, all my Han Hoth variants are sold again. Had to fund Chewbacca variants!