Full set of Palitoy 12, 20, & rare 30, 41, 45 backs for sale

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Grant_C said:
Excuse if I'm wrong here and accept my biggest apology.

But is this the same actionforcetoys Andy who put a ton of toytoni's for sale when the story broke.

The same guy I contacted on eBay and declare theres no proof, and even though there was none, refused unlike other dealers to put a disclaimer on the eBay TT's?

The same guy who would happly sell TT's to my mates and people in the community without a care.

The same guy that was contacted by the BBC this year- changed the name of his eBay account name and used a second account to sell Toytoni's without a disclaimer to hide is tracks. Soundbase megastore was it?

If so, ignore my PM about a 45a TIE Pilot- even though I have been after one for years- there is no chance i'll buy from anyone who fraudulently deceives my mate and the community at whole.

If not- best of luck with your sales.

Just hang on one minute. Change my shop name? I did that as I changed the other shop into an ebay shop for clothing, please do not accuse me of doing that to sell toy toni stuff and deceive people. My other account had seller limitations so had to list on my business account for a while but it was blatantly obvious it was me, my address and business name was all over the listings so I was hardly trying to hide. When you messaged me the story had just broke and it was at the time when toy toni hadnt disappeared and it was completely unproven. As soon as there was a bit more evidence I put disclaimers on the few items I have of toy tonis. For the record the ones I have are 3po, hoth storm, bossk, tie fighter pilot, and thats about it, they are all currently on ebay. ALL have disclaimers on. I have sold toys and cases to thousands of people see my feedback so please dont try and mud my name for no reason all my items are genuine and the few toni items I have have got a disclaimer on. FYI I have spoken to the BBC several times about toy toni as they wanted to do an interview with me and put me on tv. An offer I declined as anybody else would.
 
Lee Gregory said:
Knowing Andy as we do,pics or prices for individual items will not materialise

I would love to be proved wrong

Over to you Andy........

And yes Grant, you are right it is the same bloke from soundbase megastore

Oh is that right Lee, well ask anyone serious who has emailed for pics and prices have sold a load of stuff today, some of the stuff will be getting listed on ebay as well so your love for being proved wrong will materialize!
 
Lee Gregory said:
fett1972 said:
So i guess the items may not be genuine. Seems strange that someone with so much money and wanting a full collection is willing to sell

No the vast majority are genuine, he ended up buying a whole load of Toni's in the time he has been collecting

A whole load? Bought around 7 different characters wouldnt describe that as a whole load and just how would Lee Gregory know?
 
fett1972 said:
I am getting the impression the seller cannot be trusted?

If you listen to these people you will get that impression, if you look at the facts they speak for themselves. Ask anyone who has dealt with me I dont need to prove myself to anybody on here. See my feedback on ebay. Quite annoying to see these comments really
 
Anyway just for the record, I have just wasted half an hour reading some of the negative posts on this thread, not sure what the authors were trying to achieve with it, but Im not wasting anymore time reading them, I am busy dealing with the serious buyers who have contacted me.
I am inviting offers on my collection as I simply want to get the most money possible. I am asking people to inbox as that is the way I want to do it to separate the time wasters from the serious buyers, it has worked well. I am also inviting offers as again this is the way I want to do it and it achieves the best possible return. Some of my collection will be going on ebay, and some sold privately.
Anyone seriously interested drop me an email and will be happy to help.
As for toy toni stock I have a grand total of 4 different pieces, all are already on ebay with disclaimers, so thats the end of that. I will not be checking this thread again so feel free to say what you like, the thousands of people who have dealt with me via ebay and through my store will vouch for the authenticity of my products and the service they have had. Thanks Andy - Action Force Toys
 
mr_palitoy said:
Andy and his various eBay ids are on my list of sellers who are blacklisted for selling undeclared Toni's. I wouldn't buy anything from him.

Cheers Jason

On your blacklist for just what may I ask? For selling Toy Toni items like anybody else which now have a disclaimer on? As soon as there was any serious proof I put that disclaimer on so think this is a little over the top but if thats what you want to do thats fine not in the least bit bothered. Doesnt affect the thousands of customers who have used my shop and who continue to do so!
 
I have a full run of tri logos apart from Gen Madine, Luke Hoth, and Leia Boush. Would rather sell as a set but will break up. Selling 41 and 65 backs also again inbox for details thanks
 
There's a lot of naughty posts in this thread that don't sit right with me. I have dealt with Andy a few times both buying and selling and I can honestly say I have had no problems at all. He is a genuinely good guy and doesn't deserve the negative posts.
 
snakeeyes said:
Lee Gregory said:
Knowing Andy as we do,pics or prices for individual items will not materialise

I would love to be proved wrong

Over to you Andy........

And yes Grant, you are right it is the same bloke from soundbase megastore

Oh is that right Lee, well ask anyone serious who has emailed for pics and prices have sold a load of stuff today, some of the stuff will be getting listed on ebay as well so your love for being proved wrong will materialize!

What I find most pleasing is that after your many 'hauls' you have not managed to find the majority of the really tough figures, as you were told a few years back.

Also Andy, I have no interest whatsoever in what you are selling.

Good luck with your sales.
 
Lee Gregory said:
snakeeyes said:
Lee Gregory said:
Knowing Andy as we do,pics or prices for individual items will not materialise

I would love to be proved wrong

Over to you Andy........

And yes Grant, you are right it is the same bloke from soundbase megastore

Oh is that right Lee, well ask anyone serious who has emailed for pics and prices have sold a load of stuff today, some of the stuff will be getting listed on ebay as well so your love for being proved wrong will materialize!

What I find most pleasing is that after your many 'hauls' you have not managed to find the majority of the really tough figures, as you were told a few years back.

Also Andy, I have no interest whatsoever in what you are selling.

Good luck with your sales.

And you find that pleasing do you Lee? Just shows how childish you are, why would you find this "pleasing". I managed to find many hard to find pieces FYI and my collection is of a very good quality as anyone will tell you who knows what I have, I am not getting out for the long run, I am selling some stuff to raise money for a business venture which will earn me more money to get back into the hobby in another 12 months. Not that I need to explain this to you. Not quite sure why you are so bitter Lee, and why you feel the need to post all this negative stuff on my thread. If you have no interest in what I am doing then do not comment on my posts!
 
As a collector I have to say reading all this from the outside the emphasis seems to be all on monetary gains. While everyone wants to get the most they can when and if they do sell, this forum for me has always been about helping each other out. Ebay is for getting the most you can.
 
snakeeyes said:
mr_palitoy said:
Andy and his various eBay ids are on my list of sellers who are blacklisted for selling undeclared Toni's. I wouldn't buy anything from him.

Cheers Jason

On your blacklist for just what may I ask? For selling Toy Toni items like anybody else which now have a disclaimer on? As soon as there was any serious proof I put that disclaimer on so think this is a little over the top but if thats what you want to do thats fine not in the least bit bothered. Doesnt affect the thousands of customers who have used my shop and who continue to do so!

You have been dumping Tonis on unsuspecting buyers since the scandal broke. Grant told you in December last year and you basically told him to **** off.
All the evidence has been there for a year now. You only edited the auction titles in the summer after having them reported to you repeatedly by collectors.
Ones which which weren't pointed out to you are still for sale undeclared on ebay right now:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-Palitoy-65-Back-Gamorrean-Guard-UKG85-MOC-Carded-/191249289572?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c87589164

You have made no effort at all to protect or look after your customers. I have had them asking me about their purchases and I am the one having to tell them they
bought Tonis. You should be the one doing this before you sell them. So you're on the blacklist, and you're staying there.

snakeeyes said:
As for toy toni stock I have a grand total of 4 different pieces, all are already on ebay with disclaimers, so thats the end of that. I will not be checking this thread again so feel free to say what you like, the thousands of people who have dealt with me via ebay and through my store will vouch for the authenticity of my products and the service they have had. Thanks Andy - Action Force Toys

And that is total bull**** too. I can count 11 on ebay for sale right now.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-Palitoy-65-Back-Gamorrean-Guard-UKG85-MOC-Carded-/191249289572?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c87589164

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-Palitoy-65-Back-Squid-Head-C9-5-MOC-Carded-With-Acrylic-Case-/191354198549?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c8d995a15

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-65-Back-Palitoy-C-3PO-UKG-90-MOC-Carded-WOW-Case-Fresh-/191294705859?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c8a0d90c3

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-ROTJ-Palitoy-45C-Death-Star-Droid-C9-5-MOC-With-Acrylic-Case-/201182840687?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2ed76e876f

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-65-Back-Palitoy-Hoth-Stormtrooper-UKG-90-MOC-Carded-Case-Fresh-/191294711367?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c8a0da647

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Palitoy-ROTJ-65-Back-Imperial-Hoth-Stormtrooper-MOC-Carded-AFA-85-/201182839022?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2ed76e80ee

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-ROTJ-Palitoy-45C-Lobot-UKG-85-MOC-Carded-/191249287430?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c87588906

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-Palitoy-45B-Imperial-Tie-Fighter-Pilot-UKG-90-MOC-Carded-/191249286791?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c87588687

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-Palitoy-65-Back-At-At-Driver-UKG85-MOC-Carded-/191249289035?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c87588f4b

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-Palitoy-45B-Bossk-UKG-90-MOC-Carded-/191249286063?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c875883af

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-Palitoy-45B-Imperial-Tie-Fighter-Pilot-AFA-80-MOC-Carded-/201182841283?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2ed76e89c3

And just for completeness, this one is listed as a Toni and shouldn't be:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-Palitoy-45B-At-At-Driver-UKG-80-MOC-Carded-/191249285537?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c875881a1

Jason
 
mr_palitoy said:
snakeeyes said:
mr_palitoy said:
Andy and his various eBay ids are on my list of sellers who are blacklisted for selling undeclared Toni's. I wouldn't buy anything from him.

Cheers Jason

On your blacklist for just what may I ask? For selling Toy Toni items like anybody else which now have a disclaimer on? As soon as there was any serious proof I put that disclaimer on so think this is a little over the top but if thats what you want to do thats fine not in the least bit bothered. Doesnt affect the thousands of customers who have used my shop and who continue to do so!

You have been dumping Tonis on unsuspecting buyers since the scandal broke. Grant told you in December last year and you basically told him to **** off.
All the evidence has been there for a year now. You only edited the auction titles in the summer after having them reported to you repeatedly by collectors.
Ones which which weren't pointed out to you are still for sale undeclared on ebay right now:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-Palitoy-65-Back-Gamorrean-Guard-UKG85-MOC-Carded-/191249289572?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c87589164

You have made no effort at all to protect or look after your customers. I have had them asking me about their purchases and I am the one having to tell them they
bought Tonis. You should be the one doing this before you sell them. So you're on the blacklist, and you're staying there.

snakeeyes said:
As for toy toni stock I have a grand total of 4 different pieces, all are already on ebay with disclaimers, so thats the end of that. I will not be checking this thread again so feel free to say what you like, the thousands of people who have dealt with me via ebay and through my store will vouch for the authenticity of my products and the service they have had. Thanks Andy - Action Force Toys

And that is total bull**** too. I can count 11 on ebay for sale right now.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-Palitoy-65-Back-Gamorrean-Guard-UKG85-MOC-Carded-/191249289572?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c87589164

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-Palitoy-65-Back-Squid-Head-C9-5-MOC-Carded-With-Acrylic-Case-/191354198549?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c8d995a15

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-65-Back-Palitoy-C-3PO-UKG-90-MOC-Carded-WOW-Case-Fresh-/191294705859?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c8a0d90c3

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-ROTJ-Palitoy-45C-Death-Star-Droid-C9-5-MOC-With-Acrylic-Case-/201182840687?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2ed76e876f

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-65-Back-Palitoy-Hoth-Stormtrooper-UKG-90-MOC-Carded-Case-Fresh-/191294711367?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c8a0da647

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Palitoy-ROTJ-65-Back-Imperial-Hoth-Stormtrooper-MOC-Carded-AFA-85-/201182839022?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2ed76e80ee

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-ROTJ-Palitoy-45C-Lobot-UKG-85-MOC-Carded-/191249287430?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c87588906

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-Palitoy-45B-Imperial-Tie-Fighter-Pilot-UKG-90-MOC-Carded-/191249286791?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c87588687

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ROTJ-Palitoy-65-Back-At-At-Driver-UKG85-MOC-Carded-/191249289035?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c87588f4b

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-Palitoy-45B-Bossk-UKG-90-MOC-Carded-/191249286063?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c875883af

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-Palitoy-45B-Imperial-Tie-Fighter-Pilot-AFA-80-MOC-Carded-/201182841283?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2ed76e89c3

And just for completeness, this one is listed as a Toni and shouldn't be:-

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-ESB-Palitoy-45B-At-At-Driver-UKG-80-MOC-Carded-/191249285537?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&hash=item2c875881a1

Jason

Very well done Jason, I miscounted! All of these apart from 1 has a toy toni disclaimer so just what is your point? Am I now being accused of conning people because I didnt check how many possible toy tonis I had on ebay when I posted the last post? The reason I had 4 in my head was because there are only 4 different figures on ebay that I purchased off Toni that are on ebay. They are 3po, hoth storm, bossk, tie fighter pilot. The rest I bought from other sources.
I have even added a toy toni disclaimer to one that isnt a toy toni, and theres one that possibly is a toy toni which has not got a disclaimer on, so clearly you can see that this one is a mix up. Anybody with any common sense can see that. Or will I now be accused of conning myself???
This is getting a little silly guys, grow up. Makes me wonder where you guys get the time to preach all this hate.
 
Going back to your first point Jason I am unaware the Gamorrean Guard is under the spotlight, its the first I know so I will gladly edit it. I never told anybody to **** off either. I told Grant when he messaged me that I had spoken to Toni and he assured me the stories were rubbish and that he was taking people to court over it. When it blew up for the second time, I was in China for 2 months, AS EVERYBODY IS AWARE. The staff dealing with the ebay shop immediately put disclaimers on the items as soon as they was made aware of how serious it was. And as for your blacklist, who cares about your blacklist except yourself, it doesnt lose me any sales so keep me on it forever with pleasure it it makes you feel important.
 
In the auction it says

"variation is possibly one of the many carded figures that were produced using original unused cardbacks"

Does this mean you are unsure if they are Toni's or not?

Cheers
 
sparkysx said:
In the auction it says

"variation is possibly one of the many carded figures that were produced using original unused cardbacks"

Does this mean you are unsure if they are Toni's or not?

Cheers

It says there is a possibility and that is what that means, a possibility. Doesnt mean it is a toy toni but if the disclaimer is there anyway then that covers it
 
tiefighterboy said:
As a collector I have to say reading all this from the outside the emphasis seems to be all on monetary gains. While everyone wants to get the most they can when and if they do sell, this forum for me has always been about helping each other out. Ebay is for getting the most you can.

Selling up like this is quite traumatic and I dont want to sell my collection at all. If you are here to help fellow collectors out as you say you are, then act like you do and show some compassion and get off my case will you! I am just minding my own business trying to sell my collection quietly so why dont you all just let me do that instead of bitching about anything you can. As I said I am pissed off enough as it is having to sell up dont need all this hassle.

As for looking out for each other, I have just honored a sale where I got less money for 12 thirty backs, but I already shook on the deal so didnt want to let the guy down. So I went with it. If that isnt looking after my fellow collectors then what is?
 
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