Always wondered why..?

DARTH VADER

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Hi all,

One question that has always made me wonder...now why did they never make that as a toy back in the day..?

I am talking about the TIE-BOMBER. Imagine how cool that would have been 8)

One of these days...when I have everything else (Dark) Lord only knows when that will be...I will pick up a couple of loose TIE-FIGHTERS and get the mechanics in hangar bay to construct one for the fleet :)

Carl
 
Oh the list of things they could've done is endless!!

I'd have loved a Moff Tarkin Figure
Cantina Band!
Rebel Fleet trooper
etc.
 
Tarkin...now that would have been awesome...and Biths too...the band could have been a nice little set...the lack of a Han in Stormtrooper suit didn't make sense at the time either...
 
I agree poncho, it was a good effort...

But just as the old films beat the modern works...I feel the toys do likewise...maybe that is nostalgia talking...but I'm sticking to it anyway! :D
 
DARTH VADER said:
I agree poncho, it was a good effort...

But just as the old films beat the modern works...I feel the toys do likewise...maybe that is nostalgia talking...but I'm sticking to it anyway! :D
welcome aboard btw

regards

chris
 
Then there's the toys they DID make - the Patrol Dewback was a weird choice for the ANH range. Same with the later mini-rigs - Endor Ranger and that one man orange ship thing. As a kid I bought them but even then I thought 'these weren't in the films!'

The Imperial Spy from ANH would have been a cool figure.
 
x-pack said:
Then there's the toys they DID make - the Patrol Dewback was a weird choice for the ANH range. Same with the later mini-rigs - Endor Ranger and that one man orange ship thing. As a kid I bought them but even then I thought 'these weren't in the films!'

The Imperial Spy from ANH would have been a cool figure.

Garindan...cool character...and I agree...would have been a great figure...

Or the Ronto...or the Tonnika sisters...imagine a Luke in Bacta tank...the list goes on...
 
A removable helmet Vader would've been nice for ROTJ as well as an A Wing in the main range rather than just Droids
 
Some of the other cantina creatures would have been cool

Not to mention more of Jabba's henchmen..and oola & Slave leia!!! :D
 
DARTH VADER said:
Or the Ronto...

Pretty good reason they never made a vintage Ronto. It didn't exist until the 1997 Special Edition. ;)

While in retrospect, and compared to today's Hasbro standard of 28365 figures per year, it's confusing why certain figures didn't get made for ANH (Tarkin, Sandtrooper, Owen, Beru, etc.), it actually makes sense. Kenner took a huge gamble on a film that almost never got made - and one that was expected to come and go into obscurity quickly. NO ONE knew the impact and longevity the film would have. We should be very lucky we got those first 12 figures at all, as even the scale was a risk (boys figures up to then were mostly 12" like GI Joe and Action Man, or 8"like the MEGO lines).

For the second wave, after the unexpected massive success, they tried to make a second wave as quickly as possible. The choices they made were very specific. Needed a pilot for the X-Wing Fighter, and they were putting out two major playsets (Land of the Jawas and Creature Cantina). The four aliens filled in the Cantina, and the three droids were for the LotJ playset. It takes about a year from initial concept to retail, so with 1978 proving the first 12 were huge, 1979 was for the second wave.

By the time they realized the line would continue, ESB was on the way, so production shifted to figures for the new movie, as opposed to what would have been a three year old movie at that point. They would not revisit ANH with new figures until POTF in 1985, and with sales falling and no new movies in sight, the line ended before they could get to those on everyone's wish lists. The original run of 92-100 figures, depending on what you include, was FAR more ambitious than any movie line before it, so while in hindsight they missed a ton of figures, for that era, the line was groundbreaking.

More figures WERE planned, but the line's cancellation means many would never be known, although of course we all know there were plans for some, like Yarna, Luke in medical frigate robes, and some new Emperor figure. I'm sure that given time, we would have seen a Han Stormtrooper as well. However, technology would have prevented a removable helmet Vader, and I imagine Oola and Slave Leia wouldn't have been made due to conservative mindsets back then.

Ian
 
I was never really worried as to what was made and what wasn't , I enjoyed the figures nonetheless . I was always baffled as to why a character such as prune face who had a split second screen time was made and where as the guy with the big nose who is spying on Han Solo at mos eisley blabbing to the stormtroopers was never made.
 
Survival kit Chris said:
I was never really worried as to what was made and what wasn't , I enjoyed the figures nonetheless . I was always baffled as to why a character such as prune face who had a split second screen time was made and where as the guy with the big nose who is spying on Han Solo at mos eisley blabbing to the stormtroopers was never made.

Like Ian says it's because SW was a gamble, by the time of ROTJ Kenner knew they could sell any old ****.

The second wave of figures is really telling in how much of a gamble the line was - of the 8 figures released after the first 12 they are all robots and aliens apart from Luke X-Wing. Kenner really didn't trust a line of human figures like Tarkin or Rebel Trooper, and the aliens also went with the cantina set.

The next run of figures was ESB and so Kenner just concentrated on the new characters. If the last 17 continued we might have seen more of the SW figures but we may never know.
 
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