A Huge Leap For Mankind.......

[Grant]

Amazing stuff. Star Trek but for real. Lol

 

[JuniorChubb]

Less of that Grant, do you know where you are?

 

[Caswellbot]

Watch out here comes moaning mirtle...

When I think about the 100's of billions if not trillions of tax payers dollars/ pounds that have been invested in our ambitions for space exploration and I think about how much better spent that money would be in "levelling the playing field" for all those people who are really struggling in the world I can't help but feel a little despondant. Is searching space really the answer? :|

Ironic viewpoint I know seeing as the "space programme" paved the way for the film's that we all know and love.

 

[Jediknight3263827]

Watch out here comes moaning mirtle...

When I think about the 100's of billions if not trillions of tax payers dollars/ pounds that have been invested in our ambitions for space exploration and I think about how much better spent that money would be in "levelling the playing field" for all those people who are really struggling in the world I can't help but feel a little despondant. Is searching space really the answer? :|

Ironic viewpoint I know seeing as the "space programme" paved the way for the film's that we all know and love.

:lol: no what you mean but the earth is not going to last forever might be a million years or a trillion but one thing for sure is it will come to an end and in that time the earth will come under various threats from space that could damage the earth so we do need to do all these expensive ventures to try and make life survive in the future.
I personally think its awesome and love all aspects of space it really fascinates me i even purchased a telescope and have seen some awesome sights with my own eyes even just seeing the surface of the moon through my scope with my own eyes and not a picture on the net is something that everyone should see it really is amazing

 

[JuniorChubb]

Watch out here comes moaning mirtle...

When I think about the 100's of billions if not trillions of tax payers dollars/ pounds that have been invested in our ambitions for space exploration and I think about how much better spent that money would be in "levelling the playing field" for all those people who are really struggling in the world I can't help but feel a little despondant. Is searching space really the answer? :|

Ironic viewpoint I know seeing as the "space programme" paved the way for the film's that we all know and love.

I understand your viewpoint Chris, there is a lot wrong on our planet that needs resolving...

But progress is progress, people probably moaned that boats and planes were a waste of resources but today they help spread aid around the world and are within the reach of the common man.

Look at what the satellites orbiting the Earth allow us to do, communication, weather analysis and prediction and much much more. This information that helps mankind would not be available without the billions that is pumped into space research and development, the technology and materials developed by NASA that are now used in our everyday lives.

Then you can take a leap forward, the day will come (if we do not destroy ourselves first) when we will need to colonise other worlds, this may seem impossible now but that is what they said to the Europeans who sailed West to the edge of the World, today hundreds of people make this 'impossible' journey every day.

There is also the impact scenario, the Dinosaurs didn't survive it, this leap might take us closer to surviving an extinction impact ourselves.

On a personal level you can also look at how much money we waste on Vintage Star Wars, surely we would be better off donating this money to the Worlds starving and put our spare time into levelling the playing field.

 

[Caswellbot]

My point is that our so called progress is what has got us to this point. A point where we are sending probes to explore other avenues to exploit resources. And then what? We are supposed to be intelligent beings and we are as far as I know the only species destroying our own environment? There is a paristic feature to our ambitions if you think about it.

 

[JuniorChubb]

My point is that our so called progress is what has got us to this point. A point where we are sending probes to explore other avenues to exploit resources. And then what? We are supposed to be intelligent beings and we are as far as I know the only species destroying our own environment? There is a paristic feature to our ambitions if you think about it.

We have definitely created our own mess, but it is a fallacy to think we are the only species to do this. We are the only species with the ability to recognise what we are doing though, and then do sod all about it.

All species do the same, look at rabbits. If they are left in an environment where they are top of the food chain they overpopulate, use up all the food resources until there is a massive population cull through starvation and they start again. Plagues of Locus do exactly the same, reproduce until their numbers cannot be sustained and they starve to death in their thousands as they have 'destroyed' their environment.

You also have to consider that our reasons for leaving the planet may be out of our control and not necessarily down to our abuse of the planet.

You are right about our parasitic nature, without it though we may not be here today.

 

[Michael Sith]

I think it's awesome, and testament to human ingenuity, what actually sets us apart is our quest for knowledge and to push the boundaries.

I would love to be able to go into space, and to land on Mars 8) but I'm going nowhere near Uranus :shock:

 

[jedimastermark]

apparently the probe is stuck in the shadows and cant recharge the battery's

could die by Saturday but got tons of data

 

[Frunkstar]

Is searching space really the answer?

Yes! without it, eventually as has been said above said above, at some point we will face an extinction event & without the possibility of the colonization of other suitable places we are headed for the chop

There is a paristic feature to our ambitions if you think about it

Yes! I see us ending up like the aliens in Independence day, scouring the galaxy raping everything in our path for the sake of survival & self gain if we carry on the way we are going, I think it would take some major event to turn humanitys direction to a more positive approach, bit like the remake of the day the earth stood still, we really could do with a more developed & mature species turning up & laying the law down.

Klaatu Barada Nikto!

 

[Caswellbot]

This desire is born out of our fear of death or extinction of the human race entirely. This is a materialistic concept born out of Maya/ illusion. If we are eternal then we should have nothing to fear in death as long as we have lived our lives in a way that will enable us to reconnect with the ultimate source. But that is a different topic altogether.

 

[Richard_H]

When they find 3 packs on Tritan you're getting none of them.

 

[weasel]

We are supposed to be intelligent beings and we are as far as I know the only species destroying our own environment? There is a parastic feature to our ambitions if you think about it.

I think Agent Smith sums it up perfectly.

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As I get older and I get more and more misanthropic.

 

[jedimastermark]

We are supposed to be intelligent beings and we are as far as I know the only species destroying our own environment? There is a parastic feature to our ambitions if you think about it.

I think Agent Smith sums it up perfectly.

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As I get older and I get more and more misanthropic.

Il leave this one to Prime

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[x-pack]

it left 10 years ago, mental!

Makes you wonder what they could do now with manufacturing coming on leaps & bounds in those 10 years, really incredible stuff, be nice to see what the samples throw up.

A dodgy looking VCJ maybe? :?

:lol:


You would expect a Chewie figure at least

 

[theforceuk]

Fantastic discusssion, I never understood the quote 'If there's a bright centre to the universe then your on the the planet that is furthest from'. :lol:

 

[Frunkstar]

Its not looking too promising for the probe now with it being in the shadows is it, 10 years to get there & a week of battery power to get by on without the aid of the solar panels & they are arguing about if to use the drill or not for samples, you'd be gutted if you were on the team, must be so disappointing knowing you got there, landed successfully which is no mean feat, only to have your dreams cut short by the lack of a little sunshine, I do hope they manage to get some samples done before the battery life expires.

 

[weasel]

Il leave this one to Prime

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That modern day bastardisation is NOT Optimus Prime!

 

[JuniorChubb]

This desire is born out of our fear of death or extinction of the human race entirely. This is a materialistic concept born out of Maya/ illusion. If we are eternal then we should have nothing to fear in death as long as we have lived our lives in a way that will enable us to reconnect with the ultimate source. But that is a different topic altogether.

Glad you came back Chris, I thought I might have gone overboard on the exodus spiel...

I didn't realise you took the eternal path, its a big IF and a very different topic indeed.

I think you are right about the fear of extinction being a concept of illusion especially for the masses and as put forward by the media. The Mayan calendar is a great example of this, so was the Millenium bug to a certain degree. There is solid evidence though that our time on this planet is limited as is the life of this planet regardless of our parasitic behaviour.

As you point out though, these arguments have no sway against an opinion of faith.

 

[Michael Sith]

Probably for the first time in the human races history, we have the chance to plan and set down a strategy in the long term, in respect of the human race surviving, any global catastrophe or the inevitable end to the planet be that in a thousand or 20 thousand years.
By using technology, and looking at other planets and resources etc, we can give ourselves options, through long term planning.

I know it all sounds fantastical, and we as a race are materialistic and greedy, but at least the big questions are out there for debate, and there are chances if they are taken.

I love all of the space exploration, and possibilities that it creates.