Yet another AFA abortion part 2 for today

[Frunkstar]

So you thought the other was easy to spot, well a fresh little game for you eagle eyed spotters!

Whats the issue with these 2 AFA graded baggies then?

 

[JuniorChubb]

Whats the issue with these 2 AFA graded baggies then?

I think this one is more cryptic....!

They look shite compared to a UKG graded baggie? :lol:

 

[Frunkstar]

I think this one is more cryptic....!

They look shite compared to a UKG graded baggie? :lol:

Not that cryptic IMO & you state the obvious Chubbs

 

[Richard_H]

Is the first one missing Farmboy? Is the second a small head? May be a poor shot.

 

[tundra9]

Should the Luke be a DT?

 

[Frunkstar]

Is the first one missing Farmboy? Is the second a small head? May be a poor shot.

The first is missing farmboy but that's not it, but well spotted as TBH I had not even noticed that

& the Han is indeed a pin head!

 

[Frunkstar]

Should the Luke be a DT?

Nope, but he is also found in this baggie type & if it were a DT version the mistake would be the same :!:

 

[Richard_H]

:shock: Just read the 'easy' one so here goes...

The first bag is quite clearly not a kenner because when you rub the materials between your first finger and thumb you don't get the skweedgy noise that you'd expect.

The second bag cannot be a kenner because when you shine a light of a rating of 65 or above luminosity you can only see 456 colours of the spectrum which indicates that it is palitoy. For a kenner you'd expect to only be able to see 446 as some of the shades of blue don't come out too well.

 

[Caswellbot]

Are neither of them sw A baggies??

 

[Frunkstar]

:shock: Just read the 'easy' one so here goes...

The first bag is quite clearly not a kenner because when you rub the materials between your first finger and thumb you don't get the skweedgy noise that you'd expect.

The second bag cannot be a kenner because when you shine a light of a rating of 65 or above luminosity you can only see 456 colours of the spectrum which indicates that it is palitoy. For a kenner you'd expect to only be able to see 446 as some of the shades of blue don't come out too well.

I will take the 5th on that one :lol:

Are neither of them sw A baggies??

No they are indeed both the stated SW-a baggies Chris

Come on guys, lets see how hawkeyed you lot are

 

[shawn_k]

Okay, I'll take a stab even though I'm not sure if this is what you're going for. The label says 1978 which was the year these were produced. However, the date stamps on the figures say 1977, which reflects when Kenner was licensed to produce them. I personally don't have a problem with the 1978 date and the lack of farmboy, where he wasn't advertised as Luke Skywalker (Farmboy outfit) and it was available starting in 1978, but that's me.

 

[CRAZYHAZY]

It says 1978 for the farmboy

 

[CRAZYHAZY]

Beat me to it whilst i was posting :lol:

 

[Frunkstar]

No & no

i am not bothered about either of those points either, I may be a bit anal when it comes to baggies, but not that anal :lol:

A little hint - think about AFA policy's as this is IMO a rather obvious mistake on there part & totally against what they claim to be there rules on grading baggies :wink:

 

[jedi_masters]

Tape sealed???

 

[shawn_k]

No & no

i am not bothered about either of those points either, I may be a bit anal when it comes to baggies, but not that anal :lol:

A little hint - think about AFA policy's as this is IMO a rather obvious mistake on there part & totally against what they claim to be there rules on grading baggies :wink:

:lol: Glad I was wrong on that then. I wasn't sure how much anal you liked.


The only other thing with that hint I can think of was with it being tape sealed. Last I knew, they were grading tape sealed baggies now, with this being the first instance.

 

[Caswellbot]

I think you might have it with the tape tape seal shout Shawn.

 

[Bramistuta25]

U-grade on both

 

[Frunkstar]

Got it Shawn!! - one blue peter badge goes to that member there!! :wink:

& thanks for the link, though as you can see by the 2 I have posted, one mine & the other I sold some time ago, they have not "just started" to do this as these were done quite some time ago :?

I had a good read of that thread thanks Shawn & it looks to me to be just one further nail in the coffin for that company, why should they be able to swap & change policy's as & when they see fit to do so to there own advantage?? :?

& furthermore if they are now going to grade tape sealed baggies I personally feel that they should be willing to grade none US issued tape sealed baggies, otherwise its one rule for one & another rule for everyone else, not that IMO that would be out of character or anything new from them.

 

[shawn_k]

they have not "just started" to do this as these were done quite some time ago :?

That link I posted was from 2009, so this wasn't "just started" by any means.

I had a good read of that thread thanks Shawn & it looks to me to be just one further nail in the coffin for that company, why should they be able to swap & change policy's as & when they see fit to do so to there own advantage?? :?

& furthermore if they are now going to grade tape sealed baggies I personally feel that they should be willing to grade none US issued tape sealed baggies, otherwise its one rule for one & another rule for everyone else, not that IMO that would be out of character or anything new from them.

Well, to be honest, like any company, they have added/changed to find other ways to bring in profit for their business. In the beginning AFA only graded MOCs. So are you saying that they shouldn't then have gone on to grade baggies, coins, loose figures, vehicles, playsets, etc? From a business perspective that makes no sense, but starting out small and then expanding does. I know you completely detest AFA and love UKG. I personally have no affiliation for either as I don't care about graded items, but UKG really just copied AFAs model, but will grade a few things that AFA won't like the Euro baggies. The one thing I completely detest with both companies was the U grade. In my opinion, that should have been the "nail in the coffin" for both companies, but obviously the graded collectors didn't care enough to hit them in the wallet when that happened. UKG really had a chance to stand out above AFA by not offering that service, but instead followed along.

Not trying to turn this into another debate, but as a collector who doesn't care about grading, this is how I see it.