Will the UK leave the EU ?
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Woolyniner
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Pomse2001 said:Congratulations guys with the uk election result
Well that depends on which way we voted.
I see it as commiserations. Now we need to make the best of it and find a positive way forward.
This result is historic, regardless of how you voted.
We are a democracy and one which has exercised that privelage, those who voted who have not got their desired result ( myself included) will have to trust that the ensuing ramifications are not as negative as has been banded.
We all need to look for the positives and manage the negatives and to hope that the impacts on our wallets, and future is minimal.
I am sure there will be immediate knee jerk reactions, especially in the financial markets ( £ plummet) but that will hopefully be short lived and will bounce back, financial markets are notoriously volatile ( by nature of the beast money shifts to protect investment short term).
I hope this result does not cause a loss of UK identity with Scotland for example looking to invoke another referendum of their own!
For those who are now worried and unsure, again myself included, we need to not panic and to look for the positives.
JMHO
We are a democracy and one which has exercised that privelage, those who voted who have not got their desired result ( myself included) will have to trust that the ensuing ramifications are not as negative as has been banded.
We all need to look for the positives and manage the negatives and to hope that the impacts on our wallets, and future is minimal.
I am sure there will be immediate knee jerk reactions, especially in the financial markets ( £ plummet) but that will hopefully be short lived and will bounce back, financial markets are notoriously volatile ( by nature of the beast money shifts to protect investment short term).
I hope this result does not cause a loss of UK identity with Scotland for example looking to invoke another referendum of their own!
For those who are now worried and unsure, again myself included, we need to not panic and to look for the positives.
JMHO
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I look forward to seeing how the ideas posited by the leave campaign materialise in the real world.
On the radio this morning the UKIP treasurer was most insistent that the remain campaign had been using dirty tactics and scaremongering. :shock: :roll: Did he see any of the leave campaign material?
On the radio this morning the UKIP treasurer was most insistent that the remain campaign had been using dirty tactics and scaremongering. :shock: :roll: Did he see any of the leave campaign material?
Mr-shifter
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Both campaigns have been backed up by lies. Most of what came through my door was like propoganda material from the 1940s. I was waiting for a leaflet with a picture of David Cameron eating babies to fall on the doormat.
I voted stay, for a number of reasons and am dissapointed with the result. But I think as a country now we need to shake off this bitterness and work together to try to pull ourselves out of the mess that the fallout is to cause.
A democratic process has been excersized. And we must acknowledge the vote.
What would happen now though if the European Union offered far more favourable terms. Would the uk be able to vote again as the result was so close?
Here's to an uncertain future.
I voted stay, for a number of reasons and am dissapointed with the result. But I think as a country now we need to shake off this bitterness and work together to try to pull ourselves out of the mess that the fallout is to cause.
A democratic process has been excersized. And we must acknowledge the vote.
What would happen now though if the European Union offered far more favourable terms. Would the uk be able to vote again as the result was so close?
Here's to an uncertain future.
robpmarsh
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I think the EU are worried that the UK exiting will cause a domino effect with other countries wanting referendums.
Dorsetmark
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Looks like the rebels put down the empire again
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Absolutely. I think the main reasons Remain have lost are the poor campaign and Labour apathy.Mr-shifter said:
It's going to be a bumpy ride, and I'm sure that what we'll see will be worse than 'Leave' suggest but not as bad as 'Remain' feared. One thing I firmly believe we'll see is 'Leave' voters complaining that we don't get what the 'Leave' campaign promised.
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That won't happen. If it did it would open to door for various other countries to have referendums and then claim improved terms. Greece would be the obvious ones, but Holland, Denmark and Sweden are hardly bastions of pro European sentiment. I can see a lot of EU Bureaucrats and PM's feeling distinctly spiteful towards to UK for giving them more domestic issues, and also effectively, giving them the finger. Don't expect the EU to play nice in our leave negotiations.
Ohh and obviously rather than a little introspective look as to why the UK has voted to leave they will all sit in their Ivory towers and seek revenge, while large swathes of the EU population bemoan the direction they are being taken. A lot of people don't want "ever closer union".
It will be interesting to see what happens with the UK now. David Cameron quit this morning so PM Boris (god help us) will have his work cut out.
In essence the UK voted for potential and promises of what could be, over what we currently have. The EU isn't perfect, far from it, but I'm not sure if the UK we end up with will be the paradise people are expecting or having been promised. I hope it is. I guess time will tell.
PS, Massively surprised by the result. I was expecting us to stay.
skywalker
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YES get in, made my vote to leave and woke up to the fantastic news this morning.
Close the borders kick out the sponging migrants and lets move Britain forward.
Close the borders kick out the sponging migrants and lets move Britain forward.
skywalker
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lejackal said:
100% serious mate..,, British scroungers are just as bad and hopefully in time the government can tighten up on those scrounging bastards who are too lazy to work.
As for know though just rejoicing in the fact we are free from the shackles of the EU..!
lejackal said:
Yes I also agree I don't want some migrants coming near me IF there only intention is to sponge all they can get from governments and have no intention of working.
BUT if genuinely want to work and better themselves i have no problem who they are. If they are also possibly fleeing for there lives from the hell that's still happening in the middle East I believe it's the West as in all of us to try to help them. I have no idea who is to blame and I don't think even those involved have a clue how to solve it.
Weather we accept it or not we are involved in the problem out there including Ireland north and south along with England and many other countries. I feel it's only fair if we accept those people who genuinely need help and let them into the country they arrive at.
I have know idea how you would try to filter out the genuine people coming to the border but totally closing it to everyone I feel is wrong in my opinion.
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The thing is we have nearly 2 million people out of work, we have a housing crisis and a crippled national health system that is on breaking point we can not accommodate anymore migrants regardless of why they want to enter the U.K we must put British people first...
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Does this mean Man Utd don't have to play in the Europa league next season?
Seriously what a mess we're gonna be in for next 2, 3 years or evan longer.
Seriously what a mess we're gonna be in for next 2, 3 years or evan longer.
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skywalker said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25134521
skywalker
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peekaygee73 said:
What's your point..?
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