The trilogo Jawa cardback

[PGowdy]

Just to let you know, a bid was placed on this yesterday which pushed the auction up to £134! With the current high bidder still winning. Then the bid that pushed it up was cancelled and it dropped back down to 56. I know morals can loosen in the collecting community when someone really wants something so if anyone here IS bidding on it, Just so you know, if you aren't willing to bid at least 150 on this item it probably isn't worth it.
An i'm not the one winning!! :lol:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260823782778&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_642wt_1141

 

[itfciain]

The old bidding and cancelling trick is a good one to see what the bids are like - especially on something rare like this. The guy listing this item (not the original seller) didnt exactly start on here well but I am not sure whether he is capable of this type of thing - although he is due for 10% so who knows

 

[PGowdy]

Yeah, i'm not accusing anyone of that. It's plausible someone could do that to see how high bids are but bid get placed and cancelled all the time so again, can't say it's the seller. But i get your point.

 

[Joe]

Well at least we know the bid you have to beat to win it now :shock:

The last one sold on ebay for 54 (I thought it was 52- sue me) - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220787553610#ht_500wt_1156 (that took a lot of finding and I wish I had found it before all the arguing)

After fee's (both paypal and ebay) that seller probably made about 47-48 quid.

I think with the last highest bidder on this one cancelling his bid it makes it dangerous for the current high bidder as people might bid up to his max to spite him and cost him more money, either that or people just wont bid because they can't beat him. I know a few people that have flat out said they won't go that high and were quite shocked to see it above 100!

Thanks for the heads up Pete, I am sure a few people will be happy to know they don't have to bother bidding now in an attempt to beat the high bidder :lol:

 

[tigerham]

Nice heads up Pete and I doubt he put the high bid in to see what it would go up to but it definately goes to show others what the second bidder's highest was, I think around £133 or something so like Pete said if you really want to pay that much then we now know what you've got to put down to beat it.

Guess Retrochrome can only blame himself for that one and hopefully shows Shane he can trust people on here.

Good luck with the auction dude!

 

[mr_palitoy]

Was on £96 until a few seconds to go and then closed on £102. My reseal cost £115 back in 2006 with a card that is in similar condition, so that would seem to be a reasonable finishing point given the popularity of tri logos these days.

Who's the lucky winner?



Jason

 

[tigerham]

Yeh saw that a different bidder bumped it up in the end so all fair I guess.

Now that its over I was the original highest bidder but due to the surroundings of the piece decided to drop it and like others say there will be more. Might go for an original MOC next time.

 

[itfciain]

So our friend Mr Fatugues made himself a tenner then - and a whole lot of new friends on here - especially Joe

 

[_Lee_]

I won the one the other month,and it is in much better nick than that.I also have a Trilogo Jawa bubble too,which i have had for years.

Hmmm...decisions

 

[BespinFatigues]

Nice heads up Pete and I doubt he put the high bid in to see what it would go up to but it definately goes to show others what the second bidder's highest was, I think around £133 or something so like Pete said if you really want to pay that much then we now know what you've got to put down to beat it.

Guess Retrochrome can only blame himself for that one and hopefully shows Shane he can trust people on here.

Good luck with the auction dude!

Hadn't had any intentions of coming back to this but...

Just out of curiosity what exactly did i have myself to blame for? I'm slightly confused by the way you've referred to the highest bidder as 'he'? It was YOU making the bids and retracting them giving the old 'entered wrong amount' nonsense...

'Good luck with the auction dude!'...he was going to need it with that sort of behaviour, not really sure how you felt that was condusive in trying to get Shane a fair price for the piece or indeed of satisfying everyone else's curiousity by letting the auction runs it's course without any interference?

From the get go Shane wanted a fair price for this and came here to ask those that knew the market for an accurate valuation. Did he get that? Or did he get pm's from people who's angle was to try and buy the piece? I know he's had some guidance through those pm's, equally, where the Jawa specifically was concerned there may have been a few who were being slightly more economical with their valuations? Either way, it seemed the best way to determine the items value in this instance was to put it on a market place that would give everyone an oppurtunity to bid. Those that offered £30 by way of pm had every oppurtunity to put their valuations to the test and make a bid. That market place just so happened to be Ebay where the market determined it's worth to be £102. Simple.

Even to the very end Ham was offering me £50 to end the auction saying it was worth £50 to him, yet after i declined (saying in the interest of fairness we're going to let the auction run) entering maximums in excess of £135 saying 'actual value' and 'personal value' are two different things?? I'm slightly confused by that...AGAIN looks to me very much like he was trying to get me to end the auction and get it as cheap as possible, no?

Regardless, life move's on. So i haven't made any friends on here? Well maybe not amongst those that voiced their opinions but i'm quite sure there were an equal amount that read and understood my perspective.

 

[Caswellbot]

I must admit that Im amazed this card went for what it did. Fair play to Shane and Im glad for him. I think that is a fantastic price for a cardback regardless of the the figure/ Logo. Shane. I hope you arent put off from using this forum or from your experience on here. I honestly think that this is a site with alot to offer people and is full of friendly and knowledgeable members. It has helped many newcomers in the past and I hope that it will serve to do so in the future. It is a shame that this experience is not as clear cut as we all would have liked. I sincerely hope there are no hard feeling amongst all those concerned.

All the best for future sales.

Chris.

 

[tigerham]

Nice heads up Pete and I doubt he put the high bid in to see what it would go up to but it definately goes to show others what the second bidder's highest was, I think around £133 or something so like Pete said if you really want to pay that much then we now know what you've got to put down to beat it.

Guess Retrochrome can only blame himself for that one and hopefully shows Shane he can trust people on here.

Good luck with the auction dude!

Hadn't had any intentions of coming back to this but...

Just out of curiosity what exactly did i have myself to blame for? I'm slightly confused by the way you've referred to the highest bidder as 'he'? It was YOU making the bids and retracting them giving the old 'entered wrong amount' nonsense...

'Good luck with the auction dude!'...he was going to need it with that sort of behaviour, not really sure how you felt that was condusive in trying to get Shane a fair price for the piece or indeed of satisfying everyone else's curiousity by letting the auction runs it's course without any interference?

From the get go Shane wanted a fair price for this and came here to ask those that knew the market for an accurate valuation. Did he get that? Or did he get pm's from people who's angle was to try and buy the piece? I know he's had some guidance through those pm's, equally, where the Jawa specifically was concerned there may have been a few who were being slightly more economical with their valuations? Either way, it seemed the best way to determine the items value in this instance was to put it on a market place that would give everyone an oppurtunity to bid. Those that offered £30 by way of pm had every oppurtunity to put their valuations to the test and make a bid. That market place just so happened to be Ebay where the market determined it's worth to be £102. Simple.

Even to the very end Ham was offering me £50 to end the auction saying it was worth £50 to him, yet after i declined (saying in the interest of fairness we're going to let the auction run) entering maximums in excess of £135 saying 'actual value' and 'personal value' are two different things?? I'm slightly confused by that...AGAIN looks to me very much like he was trying to get me to end the auction and get it as cheap as possible, no?

Regardless, life move's on. So i haven't made any friends on here? Well maybe not amongst those that voiced their opinions but i'm quite sure there were an equal amount that read and understood my perspective.

Honestly? I read the first paragraph and it's obvious you dont know me and haven't got a clue!! I'm not gonna explain myself as this subject's boring. Nonsense? lol, ok. Like you said to me the other week.. jog on!

 

[Josh]

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[tigerham]

Just read it again as wasn't sure who you were refering to Josh. Doesn't know the difference between Actual and personal value? Is that not clear? Also I went by the last valued auction for the cardback which I think was around that price, there for actual value going by that. So obviously that's what I'll offer. Just say no and move on no problem which he did. So I then went on auction and bid and kept bidding depending on how much my heart wanted it, thus being personal. Is that clear enough for you tho I don't think I can get more basic for you than that my friend (figuratively speaking)!

Oh and what did you have yourself to blame for? Maybe losing your 'client' £30 or so. Clear?

 

[PGowdy]

One often bids more than they want to and way more than an item is worth in the heat of an ebay auction. I know i've done it and been mighty relieved that i didn't win when it was all over. It's very common. The amount you think or believe an item is worth (fairly) and the amount you are actually willing to splash out on it can often be very different. Everyone knows this. Especially in the collecting community.
The item went for way over the market value but then a thing is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. As foolish as those in the know might think that is.
Niether here nor there really. Time to move on like everyone has said. :wink:

 

[tigerham]

Exactly Pete!