monkey_roo
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There are a few threads knowing about chatting about the shift in collectors and how Hasbro are performing and the quality of their stuff etc. but overall I think we are now at a point where simply dismissing certain early Modern lines as valueless is a bit out of step with the reality in the collecting market.
With a very noticeable shift in the demographic of collectors - i.e. the majority are now the children of the 90's/00's we are seeing a real increase in the value of Hasbro lines from that era - some more than others and within a line some elements more than others - but it is happening. While some basic figures have a long way to go before they reach Kenner MOC prices, some vehicles have already reached and in some cases passed them.
As someone who has just put together a carded figure and almost complete vehicle run of POTF2, POTJ and EP stuff I can safely say - things are getting more expensive.
With POTF2 in the past we have dismissed most figures as being £5ish and moved on - but that is now not the case (especially if you have shipping costs). Sure you can still get a bargain down there, but if I was to split up the line it might look something like:
Red Card Average £10
Green Card Average £12
Flashback Average £15
CommTech Card Average £20
Vehicles - no average but it is common to see red or green box X-wings heading up above £50 or £60, but look at the AT-AT, Y-Wing and Skiff - The AT-AT boxed costs the same if not more than a 1980 AT-AT... and the Y-Wing and Skiff rarely go for less than £100 now.
If we shift to Episode 1 there is a similar pattern
Card Average £10 but within that R2-1B and TC-14 can get into the £30+ mark
Two Pack Card Average is probably close to £15 now
Vehicles are a variable as with POTF2, but again an N1 can be £40+ but I try finding a Royal Starship for less than £200 or a quality Famba for less than £100 - easily vintage money for an equivalent.
Power of the Jedi is more again
Average figure has to be around £15 now and within that a few cost almost double (Boshek and R4-M9 spring to mind)
The Star Tours droids average around £20 now with R3-D3 a lot more than that
The deluxe figures are around £30 oddly with the Luke one maybe £50 or more (no idea why)
Vehicles are a real jump here - you'll be lucky to find any of them for less than £100 and a B-Wing seems to command (or demand?) the same price as a Kenner one.
Add in shipping (which is still a real cost to acquire) and you can see the average cost of a figure from the era getting up to £15 - Granted not Kenner Cash - but no longer the £5 basement items of a decade ago.
Pushing beyond these lines TVC is already out of control and various items and lines between 2002 and today cost many hundreds to get hold of (convention exclusives or any of the Saga 7 figure packs etc.).
given more and more collectors are feeding their childhood toy dreams buying up Hasbro lines from the 90's and 00's the way we did/do from the Kenner lines of the 70's and 80's I can only see prices for the these lines going up, certainly percentage wise a lot - even if cash wise we are still sub £20 a MOC as an average.
But maybe worth noting there is more value in these older modern lines than we give them credit for?
With a very noticeable shift in the demographic of collectors - i.e. the majority are now the children of the 90's/00's we are seeing a real increase in the value of Hasbro lines from that era - some more than others and within a line some elements more than others - but it is happening. While some basic figures have a long way to go before they reach Kenner MOC prices, some vehicles have already reached and in some cases passed them.
As someone who has just put together a carded figure and almost complete vehicle run of POTF2, POTJ and EP stuff I can safely say - things are getting more expensive.
With POTF2 in the past we have dismissed most figures as being £5ish and moved on - but that is now not the case (especially if you have shipping costs). Sure you can still get a bargain down there, but if I was to split up the line it might look something like:
Red Card Average £10
Green Card Average £12
Flashback Average £15
CommTech Card Average £20
Vehicles - no average but it is common to see red or green box X-wings heading up above £50 or £60, but look at the AT-AT, Y-Wing and Skiff - The AT-AT boxed costs the same if not more than a 1980 AT-AT... and the Y-Wing and Skiff rarely go for less than £100 now.
If we shift to Episode 1 there is a similar pattern
Card Average £10 but within that R2-1B and TC-14 can get into the £30+ mark
Two Pack Card Average is probably close to £15 now
Vehicles are a variable as with POTF2, but again an N1 can be £40+ but I try finding a Royal Starship for less than £200 or a quality Famba for less than £100 - easily vintage money for an equivalent.
Power of the Jedi is more again
Average figure has to be around £15 now and within that a few cost almost double (Boshek and R4-M9 spring to mind)
The Star Tours droids average around £20 now with R3-D3 a lot more than that
The deluxe figures are around £30 oddly with the Luke one maybe £50 or more (no idea why)
Vehicles are a real jump here - you'll be lucky to find any of them for less than £100 and a B-Wing seems to command (or demand?) the same price as a Kenner one.
Add in shipping (which is still a real cost to acquire) and you can see the average cost of a figure from the era getting up to £15 - Granted not Kenner Cash - but no longer the £5 basement items of a decade ago.
Pushing beyond these lines TVC is already out of control and various items and lines between 2002 and today cost many hundreds to get hold of (convention exclusives or any of the Saga 7 figure packs etc.).
given more and more collectors are feeding their childhood toy dreams buying up Hasbro lines from the 90's and 00's the way we did/do from the Kenner lines of the 70's and 80's I can only see prices for the these lines going up, certainly percentage wise a lot - even if cash wise we are still sub £20 a MOC as an average.
But maybe worth noting there is more value in these older modern lines than we give them credit for?
) I sold all my VC cards a few years ago…and now I'm buying them all back at a higher price….that's the story of Star Wars collecting for me….
.The POTF2 and TPM figures are what an action figure should look like, but then again I'm a miserable bastard!
