Secret Santa Reveals

It's not as bad as the other case, I did receive something at least. However on closer inspection several items were not what they appeared to be :(
 
Frunkstar said:
Glad the belated christmas gift got to you ok Paul & that you are still happy to come on after such a sour experience dude, it was a great pleasure being able to do a little something to help right a wrong.

(Tin Hat on) - As for Nick - where are the tracking numbers??? - enquiring minds want to know as us 3 have footed your bill & considering you were buying items blindly to the point of having not just doubles but triples of items you had bought as you could not keep track of your spends ( not like they were 10 pound items either ), I feel this situation looks very bad on you, it would be nice to hear you chime in & set this straight & at the very least make a public & private apology to Paul.

Thanks Frank. My thoughts on an apology in concern of this matter. To the members of SWFUK and to you, Todd, and Rich indeed it should come. And on that note an apology to all collectors throughout the world that have integrity and are commitment to maintaining that integrity whoever they may be. Now I realize that a global apology cannot feasibly happen and I am being farfetched in my thinking, my point in stating that is the principle of doing it.

I do not want an apology from him privately, that time has passed and would have no meaning to me personally. True colors have been shown up to now 06MAR15 since 06DEC14 (06DEC for arguments sake) and that time has passed. It does make me think though... If I were not me and I was some long term standing member of the SW collecting community with a name that was recognized everywhere then would this have happened? There are even more 'what if' questions but I tend to find that asking 'what if's' gets you no where in the end. The bed has been made and now has to be slept in.

- Steph I have faith that the Repro and touch up issue will work out. I like to err on the side of hope and I hope so :shock:
 
A sour matter which whilst not fully resolved (only one side of the story, come on Nick), has been dealt with by a typically lovely gesture from 3 generous members of this community driven forum.

Apart from this issue the 2014 SS was highly successful thanks be to Richard.
Secret Santa will be back, lets not let this put anyone off.
293 Days to go!
 
Stef - your SS item will come good and I'm in regular contact with your SS. That one was a genuine mistake.

Paul - really glad it arrived. I hope you enjoyed it and it didn't sour your SS experience overall. I want to publicly thank you for your tolerance of this situation until now.

SS this year was total bollocks overall. Many thanks to the many smooth transactions but I didn't expect to buy 3 SS this year to compensate for bullshit. Frank wasn't even a part of the SS and it says a lot that he offered to step up and join Todd and I in sorting out a parcel. That is the great side of this community.

Nick - I'm surprised it has taken this long for the outing personally. As I said many times, a simple scan/photo of a receipt could have sorted this out. None has arrived. You left me sorting all of this out which was very unfair. I honestly believed that you would come good. I pleaded your case with Paul until it got to a point where I was looking stupid. It has nothing to do with reputations - I always believe the best in people. But when you went silent and didn't answer messages I had to act. I don't think there's any point in responding now. The damage is done and that makes me sad as I've met you a couple of times now.

This all goes to show that no matter how big a collector you are, how big your reputation is, when things go wrong you will be called out. The community comes first and foremost over any single individual.
 
Secret Santa said:
A sour matter which whilst not fully resolved (only one side of the story, come on Nick), has been dealt with by a typically lovely gesture from 3 generous members of this community driven forum.

Apart from this issue the 2014 SS was highly successful thanks be to Richard.
Secret Santa will be back, lets not let this put anyone off.
293 Days to go!

Not quite true but thanks for the kind words. SS overall was a bloody nightmare - I'd rather keep the full story(-ies) to myself and I had to keep off the forum for a short while as I was so pissed and was going to blow a fuse. Paul's issue was just one I had to sort.
 
I know Rich did some chasing around - mine was getting a bit late in the day so I asked after that. Thanks for your help there. I didn't realise all this was going on behind the scenes though.

By the way, my SS was brilliant :D but personally, I might think twice about being in the next one.
 
Richard_H said:
Secret Santa said:
A sour matter which whilst not fully resolved (only one side of the story, come on Nick), has been dealt with by a typically lovely gesture from 3 generous members of this community driven forum.

Apart from this issue the 2014 SS was highly successful thanks be to Richard.
Secret Santa will be back, lets not let this put anyone off.
293 Days to go!

Not quite true but thanks for the kind words. SS overall was a bloody nightmare - I'd rather keep the full story(-ies) to myself and I had to keep off the forum for a short while as I was so pissed and was going to blow a fuse. Paul's issue was just one I had to sort.


:lol: talking to yourself again Rich :lol:
 
mumbo said:
Richard_H said:
Secret Santa said:
A sour matter which whilst not fully resolved (only one side of the story, come on Nick), has been dealt with by a typically lovely gesture from 3 generous members of this community driven forum.

Apart from this issue the 2014 SS was highly successful thanks be to Richard.
Secret Santa will be back, lets not let this put anyone off.
293 Days to go!

Not quite true but thanks for the kind words. SS overall was a bloody nightmare - I'd rather keep the full story(-ies) to myself and I had to keep off the forum for a short while as I was so pissed and was going to blow a fuse. Paul's issue was just one I had to sort.


:lol: talking to yourself again Rich :lol:


Going to be honest I was wondering the same thing
 
mumbo said:
Richard_H said:
Secret Santa said:
A sour matter which whilst not fully resolved (only one side of the story, come on Nick), has been dealt with by a typically lovely gesture from 3 generous members of this community driven forum.

Apart from this issue the 2014 SS was highly successful thanks be to Richard.
Secret Santa will be back, lets not let this put anyone off.
293 Days to go!

Not quite true but thanks for the kind words. SS overall was a bloody nightmare - I'd rather keep the full story(-ies) to myself and I had to keep off the forum for a short while as I was so pissed and was going to blow a fuse. Paul's issue was just one I had to sort.


:lol: talking to yourself again Rich :lol:

It'd be the only intelligent conversation if so.

Surprised it wasn't in poetry. Pleasantly so.
 
I've a huge amount of respect for Richard for organising the last few Secret Santa gift exchanges on here given the issues that usually arise. I can only compare running SS to organising a whip round (done a few of those over the years) and believe me, even those aren't asy or fun to organise so I would imagine SS is probably 10x worse!

Personally I only ever participated in one SS on SWF years ago but due to one persons attitude I never bothered again (didn't think it was worth the hassle). From an outsiders point of view though I must say that the last few SWF SS gift exchanges appear to have been run very efficiently and even though there have obviously been a few glitches, Rich seems to have done a good job of keeping things on track.

I am sorry to hear of the problems this time around but well done to Frank, Todd and Rich for sorting this mess out.

Hopefully this thread doesn't put anyone off of joining in the fun at the end of the year if the tradition continues because if everyone does what is asked of them it's usually a very fun thing to be a part of.
 
I think the SS idea is great and has always ended well for me and in fairness have only seen isolated incidents like this.

Walkies SS did seem to put a lot of effort in to make his own moc cards for him to open which seems an odd thing to do if you were knowingly sending touched up figures.

The fact that Nick never thanked his SS or revealed his SS gift shows that he either knows he's ****ed up and is maybe embarrassed. Perhaps he scrimped on postage and didn't get it tracked to save a few £, but doesn't want anyone to know, or just left it too late and thought the best way to save face is to claim he posted something.

I can't imagine why any collector with any kind of good reputation among SWFUK members would purposely scam someone out of a £30 SS gift. It's just not worth it so must be some other explanation other than for monetary gain.

Despite this I will continue to take part as getting a SW based gift on Xmas day is a highlight of the day. Maybe some stricter entrance rules could be applied. Maybe 200 post minimum and good feedback rating. I know that wouldn't avoid the incident with Nick, but would send a message that only tried and tested trustworthy members are welcome to join in.
 
Is Nick aware of this thread? I haven't seem him post on here much of late come to think of it but I saw that he went to FF and he also contacted me on FB a little while ago so he's definitely "around".
 
Section 8 said:
I think the SS idea is great and has always ended well for me and in fairness have only seen isolated incidents like this.

Walkies SS did seem to put a lot of effort in to make his own moc cards for him to open which seems an odd thing to do if you were knowingly sending touched up figures.

walkie's SS is 100% a genuine mistake. All replacements have now been purchased and are on way.

The fact that Nick never thanked his SS or revealed his SS gift shows that he either knows he's ****ed up and is maybe embarrassed.
hes not the only one to still show. Last month I had a post that surprisingly I deleted for me. If I sent a gift and the SS didn't show a photo ID feel either bad that my gift was **** or pissed at the lack of gratitude. Some guys have been fairly meh in their response IMO. SS is more about the giving than the receiving.

Perhaps he scrimped on postage and didn't get it tracked to save a few £, but doesn't want anyone to know, or just left it too late and thought the best way to save face is to claim he posted something.

nobody was asked to send tracked. He told me he tracked them. No number received. He claims he has receipts. No photos. If the first parcel went astray and a receipt was supplied then fair enough - I think Paul may have accepted it. But 3?

I can't imagine why any collector with any kind of good reputation among SWFUK members would purposely scam someone out of a £30 SS gift. It's just not worth it so must be some other explanation other than for monetary gain.

i'll leave this bit if others want to comment. From my experience Nick was slow but a great dealer. His FS thread didn't work too well however.

Despite this I will continue to take part as getting a SW based gift on Xmas day is a highlight of the day. Maybe some stricter entrance rules could be applied. Maybe 200 post minimum and good feedback rating. I know that wouldn't avoid the incident with Nick, but would send a message that only tried and tested trustworthy members are welcome to join in.

all of the problems were from guys who met that criteria. Paul wanted to be part of the community and wouldn't meet the criteria. Would that be fair?
 
Joe said:
Is Nick aware of this thread? I haven't seem him post on here much of late come to think of it but I saw that he went to FF and he also contacted me on FB a little while ago so he's definitely "around".

He's aware. This is part of the problem I've had to deal with. I've not appreciated Nick going silent for long periods and leaving me with the **** to deal with. I discussed this with Edd in January but didn't go anywhere. It was only at FF I became aware of the 3rd package and again I asked about receipts.
If this was me I'd present all receipts and the claims for lost packages.
 
Some may think me harsh with what I am about to say, but IMO if Nick does not come on & make good this sorry situation I personally feel he should be excluded from further SS's & possibly even the forum altogether, I for one have no time for members who want to rip other members off & I am sure I am not alone in my thinking.

Come on Nick - make good this piss poor situation!!! if that is even possible at this point?
 
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