edd_jedi said:
Out of interest what makes you certain none of these (apart from the one with a trilogo bubble) originated from Toni? He's had these things since the late 80s, unless you bought it in a shop yourself or it has an unquestionable shop sticker, it doesn't matter where you got them from, they could have originated from Toni. Creases and price sticker tears aren't proof of it coming from a shop, both are easy to forge.
Edd,
If we thought like that all the time, then all any moc would be brought into question and another tin of worms being opened. The paranoia created by thinking that everything to do with such a figure is suspect will obviously lead to people becoming cautious and others worrying about their financial outlays. I trust Andy 100% and i know for a fact that he knows more about Toni than most. The photos he provided are good examples and i beleive all are legit. Thousands of people trust AFA/UKG and that backfired on them bigtime, but given the choice i would trust Andy over anything those lot have to say.
I started this thread to stop people from thinking that everything they owned was fake, because the impression i get is that there is a lot of un-needed panic. There is NO real authority on these, and its buyer beware. However, to suggest that every MOC is questionable is way off the mark.
As far as Toni goes, i have been studying these from day 1 and am making notes on a lot of things. I still dont give a second thought to the original cardbacks/bubbles list as to me it is wholly innaccurate to what Toni himself owned. yes, they were what was there for sale but to think that every single one has been used to reseal to make MOC is ludicrous. Yes Toni was doing it, but he wasnt the only one and im 95% sure of that. Someone said a long time ago they heard JJ saying he was making them to order-but why hasnt he provided this info?
I am trying to lookout for my fellow collectors, and im determined to keep finding more info about this. I dont want to be known as 'The expert' or go onto any panels, i just want piece of mind for my friends and others. Accolades are not what i want, i just want the truth.
Lee