RIP Peaches Geldolf

[x-pack]

It's still crap on her family but if it's heroine or crack or one of those really dirty drugs then yes, she personally loses my sympathy. You only have to watch Trainspotting to know that **** is not good for you. But i'm not aware that it's a 100% heroine death yet.

...and I know, I know ...alcohol is bad. Strangely I would feel more sympathy for someone who is alcoholic and died. Not sure why. I guess because it's such a common social ill and society says it's ok to drink. And most of us do every now and then. I mean, it's fun right?! But heroine! Sack that for a game of soldiers :roll:

 

[weasel]

Strangely I would feel more sympathy for someone who is alcoholic and died. Not sure why. I guess because it's such a common social ill and society says it's ok to drink. And most of us do every now and then. I mean, it's fun right?! But heroine! Sack that for a game of soldiers :roll:

Interesting point, and I kind of agree with you. To an extent. Though I must admit I don't tend to have a huge amount of sympathy for alcoholics either. It's their life and they can do with it what they want, but drug addiction is drug addiction. Whether it's crystal meth, heroine, alcohol, or pain killers.
You're right though, for some reason the last two on my list seem to attract sympathy, while the first two attract only derision and negative comments. Maybe it's because you can be a "functional alcoholic" ditto pain killer addict, but if you are addicted to the first two you all but cease being an, in anyway, productive member of society.

 

[fuzzybuzzytoys]

Apparently she was found with her baby boy of 11 months by her side

http://www.ok.co.uk/celebrity-news/peaches-geldof-found-dead-with-11-month-old-baby-boy-phaedra-by-her-side

So if she died of an overdose she died jacking up alone with her little baby boy in her arms.

...and for that she deserves ZERO sympathy in my eyes

 

[PIGCITY]

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[PIGCITY]

So if she died of an overdose she died jacking up alone with her little baby boy in her arms.

Whilst it is a very sad situation for a child to be put in, your comment above is not necessarily correct...

 

[Richard_H]

My brother in law died of heroine. It is an evil drug. However heroine is incredibly dangerous when mixed with alcohol - even in minute amounts much more so than if taking large amounts of it on its own.

 

[Michael Sith]

It's a very emotive subject, and human nature is to judge.

In my opinion, there are a lot of people who for many reasons end up addicted to pain killers or become alcoholics ...I have sympathy for these people , I know they are responsible for their actions, but, it is a very easy thing to fall into, and it then comes back to the environment that person is in, support from family etc. if they don't have the right environment around them, it's a downward spiral.

It's very easy to judge, but much harder to try and understand and cut slack, but we are all human and ALL of us have failings in varying degrees.
I count myself as a very lucky person as I have a fantastic family around me always there for support, for that very reason I do have sympathy for anyone who falls by the wayside

Down to a matter of personal opinion as with most things though, so I would never judge anyone for having an opposite view to me.

It's the children and family that are left behind that suffer here, so my heart goes out to them.

 

[Stormtrooper37]

Now it looks like a drug overdose do people's opinions of her change?

No, my opinion is still the same. It is a sad loss at 25 years old, but it is easy for us to all judge. Drugs and those who take them is a sad factor of the times we live in. She may have had a choice at first but the addiction takes hold and it can get out of control all to easy - sad for all involved. I feel for her family at this time.

My brother was a Cocaine addict for 10 years, through sheer determination and my families support he just made it through hell basically. He is younger than me, but looks older, his teeth are awful, he is pale, thin and frequently ill, he still uses Cannabis, which we all have to accept as he needs this drug to get through the day, but at least he is not using Cocaine anymore and holds down a part time job, something he could never have managed when on Cocaine, half the time he was in a fantasy world.

Cocaine cost him 3 years in prison (for an offence I'm too ashamed to mention), £45,000.00 yes £45k in money owed to Drug Dealers, which my Dad had to pay off to stop them from harming his son (luckily my parents had the money to do this, a lot don't), his personality has changed, he is insecure and relies on my parents for everything - even now he is not the same person as he was before taking Cocaine. I dread the day my parents can no longer look after him because of their health, it will fall to me as he has no life skills. My Mum looks after all his finances etc.

I hate what drugs do to any family, no one knows what goes on behind closed doors. I never told any of my friends although a few did find out eventually. I tried to distance myself from my brother and never visited him in prison, in fact when he was in prison it was a relief for all involved.

Drugs destroyed the once close relationship I had with my brother, although we are now on speaking terms, I feel nothing will ever bond us together like before the whole Cocaine scenario started. I saw how it (the drug) destroyed everything.

 

[PIGCITY]

Dude really sorry to hear that about your bro and all that you and your family have been through, glad that he's through the worst of it now though.

 

[x-pack]

Jesus! That's a terrible thing to happen in your family mate Hopefully one day you can repair the relationship with your brother.

 

[weasel]

Now it looks like a drug overdose do people's opinions of her change?

No, my opinion is still the same. It is a sad loss at 25 years old, but it is easy for us to all judge. Drugs and those who take them is a sad factor of the times we live in. She may have had a choice at first but the addiction takes hold and it can get out of control all to easy - sad for all involved. I feel for her family at this time.

My brother was a Cocaine addict for 10 years, through sheer determination and my families support he just made it through hell basically. He is younger than me, but looks older, his teeth are awful, he is pale, thin and frequently ill, he still uses Cannabis, which we all have to accept as he needs this drug to get through the day, but at least he is not using Cocaine anymore and holds down a part time job, something he could never have managed when on Cocaine, half the time he was in a fantasy world.

Cocaine cost him 3 years in prison (for an offence I'm too ashamed to mention), £45,000.00 yes £45k in money owed to Drug Dealers, which my Dad had to pay off to stop them from harming his son (luckily my parents had the money to do this, a lot don't), his personality has changed, he is insecure and relies on my parents for everything - even now he is not the same person as he was before taking Cocaine. I dread the day my parents can no longer look after him because of their health, it will fall to me as he has no life skills. My Mum looks after all his finances etc.

I hate what drugs do to any family, no one knows what goes on behind closed doors. I never told any of my friends although a few did find out eventually. I tried to distance myself from my brother and never visited him in prison, in fact when he was in prison it was a relief for all involved.

Drugs destroyed the once close relationship I had with my brother, although we are now on speaking terms, I feel nothing will ever bond us together like before the whole Cocaine scenario started. I saw how it (the drug) destroyed everything.

Sorry to hear about your brother dude. That really can't be easy.

Is/was Peaches an addict though? I mean, obviously she used drugs and I would assume on a semi regular basis. But was she an addict, or was she just someone who OD'd or who reacted to something in a 'bad' batch of Heroin?
It's a moot point, given the end result. I just ask cos I take ZERO interest in the lives of these so called "celebrities".

 

[plantman]

it seems to be the common thing for celebs, easy access, rife at parties and can easily spiral.

and dying with your children in the house...i mean jesus christ.

if they gave the death penalty to drug dealers that might solve all this ****.

 

[weasel]

if they gave the death penalty to drug dealers that might solve all this ****.

Nah. It would do FA.

Most of the time the guy making all the money isn't the guy on the street corner flogging it. He's safely out of the way sat somewhere watching the millions roll in. You would end up killing a lot of cogs in the wheel, but the whole production line would keep going.

Plus you'd get the usual "my little johnny was an angel he would never do anything like this!" BS in the papers from the mother of said drug dealer. Then she'll sue for compensation, using legal aid of course, and given the way laws seems to be set up to protect the criminal's rights rather than say I dunno, look after the victims. I think we both know who would win that case! :roll:

Welcome to Britain.

 

[plantman]

just pay a vigilante to do it lol

i know i would kill any ****ers giving my kids drugs :evil: