Restored Carded figures

[x-pack]

Do some ESB backs Todd. Boba Fett would be a cracker

 

[Snake_eyes_82]

I'd be okay if it was original bubbles not repro though. Nothing repro has any business being sold on this forum imo.

:!:

Jason

Seconded!

Yep! #Norepro

 

[Michael Sith]

Opinion is a strange thing, if everyone agreed and we had a black and white world it would be boring, we need the grey bit.
If the question is ...what's best, then the true answer is whats best for you.

Everyone has an opinion, and a right to it, but not to impose it, so I'm a great believer in do your own thing as long as it doesn't harm anyone.

So uncle Todd the debate will roll on,

 

[x-pack]

This would be RS :wink:

 

[Michael Sith]

This would be RS :wink:

Sir ...you summed it up beautifully 8)

 

[tiefighterboy]

I knew this would cause a certain amount of debate and I personally do not want to become one of the same people I despise. I look at what I am proposing as more of a restoration project with an aftermarket part so to speak. Playing devils advocate the next question posed to me would be "Where do we draw the line Todd??? Is this no different than a repro weapon with the original figure? (Original figure with repro bubble)...............still pondering

On the flip side, some guys can not afford a 100% sealed example and at the same time hate repro cardbacks and weapons.......I see this as a happy compromise.

 

[Michael Sith]

I knew this would cause a certain amount of debate and I personally do not want to become one of the same people I despise. I look at what I am proposing as more of a restoration project with an aftermarket part so to speak. Playing devils advocate the next question posed to me would be "Where do we draw the line Todd??? Is this no different than a repro weapon with the original figure? (Original figure with repro bubble)...............still pondering

On the flip side, some guys can not afford a 100% sealed example and at the same time hate repro cardbacks and weapons.......I see this as a happy compromise.

That's how I see it bud, restoration, I personally wouldn't go near a repro card.

Your not talking repro here, IMHO, like you say def a big plus for guys like me that have a budget

Debate debate

It's like anything else though if i am advised to comply my answer usually is

http://www.flickr.com/photos/94132256@N07/9559299370/

 

[Jedi_june]

I think it's a great ****ing idea Todd! Your using a real cardback, real figure, real weapons! The only thing is the bubble, I don't see a problem with that as long as you mark the bubble with an embossed "R" like mentioned in the above post, so it can't be passed on as original. And if noobs are getting into collecting vintage then they should get their study on so they won't get had! & get evaluations before they jump off the bridge!

Anyways..... What's up my people :lol:

 

[tiefighterboy]

Thanks June. I would try to source original bubbles as much as possible. Ultimately I will do what I want to, but I will respect my fellow members by ensuring these will not be confused with the 100% real deal. These will only be sold to established members of the forum.

The bubbles will be clearly marked. The cardback will be marked with my brand. on the back. No repro cardbacks or weapons will be used.

If our MOD team shoots this down.....I will respect them and not fire back.

 

[Grant]

TFB if your marking your card backs and bubbles as Repro's then your doing the best thing you can against these getting passed on as the real deal. I don't think you'd have to mark the bubbles tho, maybe just the card backs if its a complete MOC your creating.

 

[Stargeezer]

TFB if your marking your card backs and bubbles as Repro's then your doing the best thing you can against these getting passed on as the real deal. I don't think you'd have to mark the bubbles tho, maybe just the card backs if its a complete MOC your creating.

Still would think its better the other way around, for example: suppose if i would want Todd to create a Moc with my clipper Luke Cardback (note that this is an 100+ cardback) then i would not mind if it had a marked bubble, but i would not like to have the cardback damaged or marked, because i would not be able to sell it anymore as a loose cardback (if i took the repro bubble back off) afterwards for the value it has now.
I know this is a weird example, but your'll get my point. I am certain there are many other rare or expensive cardbacks that you don't wanna have marked.

 

[tiefighterboy]

In instances of a rare or hard to find cardback, I would agree marking the cardback would not be a great idea.

 

[Frunkstar]

Well you already know my thoughts on the matter Todd, but I see this as a great opportunity for those on a low budget to get the items they are looking for in a display worthy condition & I for one think its a good thing as long as the cardback is clearly marked with a small tamper proof mark, I think this could include details regarding the bubble as embossing them may well prove none to easy a task.

& to others on here, I have spoken with Todd regarding this as he in his wisdom asked my opinion regarding if it was even worth considering as he did not wan't to go ahead at first & I backed his plan 100%, I think you will all know that I am pretty much a purist when it comes to vintage, but as long as the items are clearly marked then they will be providing something for those who have no other financial option & that has to be a good thing as it will keep the "real repro crap at bay".

I myself have a couple of custom items Todd has made & they are displayed proudly with my other items & have to say he does a top draw job with great attention to detail & all with the right intentions.

 

[x-pack]

Just marking the repro stuff would do it. Don't think the cards need to be marked at all whether they be rare ones or not. At the end of the day they will all become rare sooner or later.

 

[tiefighterboy]

I have decided to move forward with restoring cardbacks and reuniting them with their figures. I will use real bubbles when at all possible. These will not be churned out by the millions as I am one man and this is a side fun type thing for me. Pristine examples of cardbacks with no damage will be not be used as I also want to respect the cardback collectors, rather repairable decent cardbacks will be sourced. I will not mark "Rare" cardbacks with my brand. The bubble will have an identifiable mark when usuing repro bubbles. I know a few of you are not happy with this move, but as time moves on, bubbles will fall off our beloved sealed examples and for those of us setting on the rare, expensive or hard to find items, this offers either a place holder for some or a real chance to own something as close to orginal as affordable to some of the guys on here not as lucky to have hundreds to spend on plastic, but yet love the hobby and want something genuine(90% depending how you weigh the bubble and seal) in thier collection.

 

[Jedi_june]

I think there's no need to mark the cardback if its real :? If in a couple of years the repro bubble falls off then who gives a **** right? Because everything else is original vintage SW except for the bubble. I think marking the cardback will lower the value of the card, like x-pack mentioned one day all cardbacks will be rare. The bubble has to be marked somehow in a way that if someone's opens it they can't remove the mark, know what I'm saying.

Anyway just my opinion bro.

Good luck to you and can't wait to see what you come up with.

Peace

 

[Michael Sith]

X pack & June......I agree 100%

Frank.....may I say as a noob to the forum, and a limited budget ( so I tick 2 boxes.....3 if you count that I love the hobby :lol: ) that I for one appreciate your approach as an established an respected collector and your fair approach to this, thank you for that.

Todd...a massive thank you for even thinking about this in the first place, shows to me that you love the hobby, but have a great affinity to the ethos of collecting, and to the community spirit on this, by a country mile, the best forum. I for one will enlist your talent ( and the beaters as well).
This has definitely given me wood :lol:

Great stuff guys, big hanks from a noob on a budget

Mike

 

[edd_jedi]

I say go for it mate, people can buy, sell and collect whatever they like on here, there are no 'rules.' The ONLY thing that is not on is selling repros/fakes as originals. As long as the ad is clear and the item is marked, you can do as you please

 

[plantman]

Mate- I know your work on restoring cardback a is great.

I'm thinking is there a way of marking the bottom of the bubble with 'repro bubble'?

this sounds the best idea to me, then people on a budget can benefit from your work

 

[rob71]

Todd, these are sure to get snapped up - I for one would definitely be interested. I predict you will be quite busy during the long winter months