Rate TLJ out of ten

[theforceuk]

Not sure I'll be going to see episode 9 either. I think I said that earlier in the thread.
The monstrosity that was TLJ has sort of left me at a crossroads when it comes to SW. I will always love the OT, and I suspect I'll always be disappointed with the prequels. They are poor films and such a let down on what they could have been. I'm not sure I "hate" them as such, but they are so far from what I was expecting/hoping for that I never watch them. Maybe if I ever show SW to the wee man I might show him the prequels as well.
The newer films are fine. TFA was basically a rehash of ANH so no issues there. Rogue one was a great film. But TLJ was a monstrosity. It just ****ed away 40 years worth of back story, character arcs/behaviour and history all so we could have the shittest chase scene since Speed2. Then there is the issue with the casino bit, the Mary Poppins bit, the "comedic" element, and the dozens of other daft scenes mentioned in this thread.
TLJ has left me feeling if I watch another **** SW film that will be me done with SW. It has been ruined and the more I think about TLJ the less likely I am to want to watch the OT (TBF, like most of you I can probably recite the films anyway). I didn't go to see Solo, nor do I plan to. If I watch it and it's pish that'll be me done. ATM I'm happy to leave SW and still be able to enjoy the OT, TFA and Rogue 1. If I watch another film and it's anything like TLJ every time I watch one of the others I will be reminded of what a **** up they made of the whole thing and it'll ruin them. Memory by association I think it's called.

I haven't decided for sure if I'll go and see E9, but I would say odds are I won't.
I left Solo to let you lot see it first and tell me what you thought, most seemed to think it was ok or better, but I still felt no need to see it. I suspect E9 will be the same. Such a shame, but whoever signed off TLJ really needs to be fired. To "ok" something that changed so much in what was such a successful franchise was a best a gamble that didn't need to be taken. At worst it was gross incompetence. I mean did they really think the fans would turn round and say "Yay, you changed pretty much everything we knew and loved about SW for no apparent reason, that's so cool!"



Oohh and whilst I agree it was sad to see Han die I did read somewhere that Harrison Ford only agreed to come back for one film on condition Han died. Not sure if it's true but if it is that does absolve the Directors and Disney of the blame for that.

Nothing will spoil my enjoyment of the origional trilogy, all three films are 'go to' films when I'm down and only seem to get better. Especially as the years go by and the sci-fy film collection becomes more diluted. I can fully understand your feelings though. That said you really should watch Solo. in my opinion it's the second best Disney Star Wars film after Rogue 1, sure it's got some faults, but it's a good film in it's own right.

I've read that about Harrison Ford as well. My understanding is he wanted to be killed off in ROTJ, because he wanted complete out of Star Wars and didn't want the constent questions down the years of are you ever going to do another Star Wars fim? I think it's good he died, makes the story authentic when a hero dies.

 

[Grant_C]

It's £10 and 2 hours :lol:

Make it sound like making a decision for face tattoos.

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[theforceuk]

£10!! I wouldn't pay that. £5.50 at my local Cinema with a movie magic card. :lol:

Popcorn and a Coke is £10 though. :lol:

Oh and you need a nice warm coat in the winter.

 

[TK-7785]

It's £10 and 2 hours :lol:

Make it sound like making a decision for face tattoos.

:lol: :lol:

Yeah, but I'd rather get my face tattooed. :lol:

 

[Cazza]

It's £10 and 2 hours :lol:

Make it sound like making a decision for face tattoos.

:lol: :lol:

Yeah, but I'd rather get my face tattooed. :lol:

:lol:

 

[Robstyley]

I watched it again the other day after a long time of not seeing it and I'm sad to say that my opinion of the film now is that it is plop. 5/6 out of 10.

 

[Chico]

Watched the TFA and TLJ again with the kids - they loved it and immediately asked to get the toys and lightsabers out - which is what it's all about.

My opinion on the the new movies hasn't changed:

- TFA: the first 45 minutes is amongst my favourite of any SW film but then a bit disappointed that the rest was a (very enjoyable) rehash of ANH

- R1: great fun, but the future of SW is extremely limited if it stays within the safety of the OT.

- TLJ: it has flaws but LOVED that it tried something different and added new dimensions to the nature of the force etc. For me, first movie to feel fresh and unpredictable since the OT. The showdown between Luke and the walkers is my favourite scene of any SW film period. That summed up my childhood perfectly.

- Solo: enjoyable but my least favourite of the new films. Didn't help that it came out so soon after TLJ, something about it felt like it was 'trying' to be Star Wars and not quite pulling it off. Really pleased that so many on here loved it though 8)

Looking forward to episode 9, but most interested to see what they can do with the completely new trilogies scheduled after.

 

[Snaketibe]

I'm confident Disney will honour their commitment to David and Dan's new trilogy, but I would be amazed if Rian Johnson's one still went ahead, at the very least theatrically. With their new TV channel, and the production of brand new Star Wars content like 'The Mandalorian' being made to fill it, if Disney was still prepared to gamble on letting Rian loose in the Star Wars universe once again despite the backlash against him from half the fanbase following TLJ, my guess is that it's most likely to be there. Regardless, if they do allow him to make any more content, where they screen it is of course entirely irrelevant to me, since I would rather watch the Test Card boxed set whilst wearing thumb screws than inflict anything that talentless vandal curls out on myself ever again.

 

[Twin30mm]

Snaketibe, you've expressed my feelings towards TLJ, to a tee.
15 months down the line and my abhorrence for this so called SW movie and its round-headed ****-knuckle of a director, has not diminished.

I sincerely believe the mis-handling of the ST, will in the future, be a case study on how not to revive a beloved franchise.

This film series has been a huge part of my life since 1978 and the complete indifference I'm feeling towards EP9 genuinely upsets me.
Hopefully, the Benioff & Weiss/Mandalorian projects can resurrect my interest.

On a side note, very interested to see the reaction to Kathleen Kennedys appearance at Celebration.
I'm sure her appearance will be choreographed down to the second.

 

[UKS]

"I also wonder if Lucasfilm is handicapped by what they can say. Is it possible that Carrie Fishers health was decreasing or poor and therefore the Holdo character was written to buffer that issue?"

It was said in non SW circles that Carrie was difficult on TFA and would have a largely reduced role in TLJ because of it.

(I hated TFA and TLJ and did not pay to watch them.)

 

[Bossk]

Garbage

 

[Twin30mm]

Admiral Ackbar voice actor Tom Kane giving exactly zero ****s in a Celebration interview.
Expressing what most sane fans think of Ackbar's death and Vice Admiral Purple Bell-End in TLJ.
You can see the colour drain from the interviewers face

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[TK-7785]

Admiral Ackbar voice actor Tom Kane giving exactly zero ****s in a Celebration interview.
Expressing what most sane fans think of Ackbar's death and Vice Admiral Purple Bell-End in TLJ.
You can see the colour drain from the interviewers face

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Oh, man! That's priceless. Love it when a guest goes off script and the corporate types are caught off guard. The interviewer didn't know what to do. :lol:

 

[Snaketibe]

Admiral Ackbar voice actor Tom Kane giving exactly zero ****s in a Celebration interview.
Expressing what most sane fans think of Ackbar's death and Vice Admiral Purple Bell-End in TLJ.
You can see the colour drain from the interviewers face ]

Fantastic stuff! :lol: ... Sorry, I mean Tom Kane's obviously just another toxic whiny man-baby that can't appreciate the brilliance of TLJ.

 

[jayums]

Get the feeling this is the last time Tom will do the voice for Ackbar! Fair criticism shut down by the nervous interviewer is telling. It's hardly surprising that TLJ was a disaster with this kind of culture.