Propstore Auction - 23rd September

[SublevelStudios]

Anyone attending this?

http://propstore.auctionserver.net/view-auctions/info/id/26/

Some AMAZING items...

 

[maxf]

Wow... I really could quite easily spend about half a million quid at this (if I had it haha)

 

[Bonsai_Tree_Ent]

Yes! And what about the auction outing rule.... :evil:

 

[ScruffyLookingNH]

Thought that rule was based on auctions that had completed within the last 7 days? And this has been in the national press.....

Anyway, that aside. Lot m385: I was in Guildford in a salesroom there when it came up for sale in 2012. I thought I'd have a go if it came within reach. I was a bit skint and that incredible piece went for not much more than 5 or 6k, as I recall. May well have been less. Look at the estimate now :shock: This could go down as my biggest collecting regret!

 

[Bonsai_Tree_Ent]

Thought that rule was based on auctions that had completed within the last 7 days? And this has been in the national press.....

Anyway, that aside. Lot m385: I was in Guildford in a salesroom there when it came up for sale in 2012. I thought I'd have a go if it came within reach. I was a bit skint and that incredible piece went for not much more than 5 or 6k, as I recall. May well have been less. Look at the estimate now :shock: This could go down as my biggest collecting regret!

So we can out auctions before they happen and screw collectors who have dedicated their time and skills to spotting a diamond, but once they've finished and no longer matter we have to hush up. Well that makes a lot of sense?!

Didn't someone post up an auction link to an Uzay R5 recently and copped a lot of flack for outing the auction - how is this different?

That painting was estimated at £3 - £5k at the 2012 auction, and the £23 - £30k that propstore have put on it now is flying a kite. It's a copy rather than the Kastel original and I think that anyone's who is serious about bidding on it is going to know the previous sale price and they are not going to want to be the muppet that pays 10X what it achieved 3 years ago.

 

[ScruffyLookingNH]

Thought that rule was based on auctions that had completed within the last 7 days? And this has been in the national press.....

Anyway, that aside. Lot m385: I was in Guildford in a salesroom there when it came up for sale in 2012. I thought I'd have a go if it came within reach. I was a bit skint and that incredible piece went for not much more than 5 or 6k, as I recall. May well have been less. Look at the estimate now :shock: This could go down as my biggest collecting regret!

So we can out auctions before they happen and screw collectors who have dedicated their time and skills to spotting a diamond, but once they've finished and no longer matter we have to hush up. Well that makes a lot of sense?!

Didn't someone post up an auction link to an Uzay R5 recently and copped a lot of flack for outing the auction - how is this different?

That painting was estimated at £3 - £5k at the 2012 auction, and the £23 - £30k that propstore have put on it now is flying a kite. It's a copy rather than the Kastel original and I think that anyone's who is serious about bidding on it is going to know the previous sale price and they are not going to want to be the muppet that pays 10X what it achieved 3 years ago.

There's a loooong thread on the auction outing rule vote and subsequent change. I happen to agree; it's illogical, but it's the rule

A copy or an earlier version? It was unsigned, that much I remember. As for not paying what it went for 3 yrs ago....we'll see. That sale was a small regional salesroom and I believe the posters were not well advertised. Didn't stop a phone bidder from the US having a go but I think it escaped a number who may have been interested. It'll certainly be interesting to see what it goes for this time. And I don't necessarily think that just because something sold for something a number of years ago doesn't mean it won't go for multiples of the original price now. That has never seemed to matter in auctions. Just look at the current market for mass produced toys, let alone one-off pieces.

 

[Bonsai_Tree_Ent]

Sorry when I said it was a copy I don't mean it is a fake, what I mean is that an entirely different (unnamed) artist repainted the whole thing from scratch using photos of Kastel's painting as the basis.

 

[SublevelStudios]

Yes! And what about the auction outing rule.... :evil:

WTF?!

Totally different. This auction is much the same as a Vectis auction, professional and well advertised, not a poorly titled ebay auction. :roll:

 

[Bonsai_Tree_Ent]

"No, no different - only different in your mind. Judge me by my size do you?"

 

[ScruffyLookingNH]

Sorry when I said it was a copy I don't mean it is a fake, what I mean is that an entirely different (unnamed) artist repainted the whole thing from scratch using photos of Kastel's painting as the basis.

No, I understood the first time. Maybe I didn't read the catalogue properly but does it state this or do you have some other source?

 

[SAVORY100]

Not sure if this will dampen the flames at all, but this particular auction has been listed on at least 5 Facebook groups I'm a member of (I'm in less than 10 so a high hit rate) and has oddly appeared almost a dozen times on my Facebook timeline in the last month advertizing that it was 'upcoming' and asking me to register to be alerted when the catalogue goes live... not listed by my friends that I can see, just by association of my interests, so I'd guess that its possibly paid advertising?

It is also all over Instagram too.

So, like every Vectis auction, it is far from a secret and I wouldn't be at all surprised to see it on BBC Breakfast in the coming days as they generally pick these big film and TV ones up; especially as there is Dr Who items in it too.

 

[Bonsai_Tree_Ent]

I knew this from another source, but I have actually just read the auction catalog entry and they say it was painted over a reprint of Kastel's so I wasn't quite right, it wasn't painted from photos it was more of a tracing over.

 

[walkie]

As usual the propstore is advertising this auction in this months empire magazine, so expect a lot of interest.

 

[Grant_C]

The Star Wars stuff was on display in Anaheim.

It was beautiful.

 

[ScruffyLookingNH]

I knew this from another source, but I have actually just read the auction catalog entry and they say it was painted over a reprint of Kastel's so I wasn't quite right, it wasn't painted from photos it was more of a tracing over.

That is interesting. Darned glad it didn't sell for a price within my range then! As you say, it's effectively a copy. A paint by numbers, even. That said, it looks amazing.

At the same action in Guildford there was a signed original SW painting but that made 7k or so. Can't remember what it was of. Think it was an unproduced movie poster.

 

[Will]

Some awesome stuff here. Shame I can't even afford a loose Dengar so would need to sell a kidney to bid on any of this stuff

I totally get why outing auctions is frowned upon but what I don't get is why the guys that organise these big auctions don't target forums like this by posting threads to advertise it themselves?! Surely if they paid a student minimum wage to spend a week posting on Star Wars/ Star Trek/ James Bond forums it would generate much more awareness amongst hardcore fans than spending thousands of pounds on an advert in Empire mag?