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<blockquote data-quote="weasel" data-source="post: 564898" data-attributes="member: 14"><p>I didn't say I would sack him, I agree it's daft to give him the boot, I said he must be in danger of the sack, if purely due to the results Utd have had this season. His loss record this year is almost 50%. I don't care who you are, if you manage a big six/seven side and you lose almost half your games you are going to be in danger of getting the boot. You can see the media circus gathering round OT. They sense blood and want another managerial scalp to help flog papers or generate clicks/views. </p><p></p><p>It's easier to replace a manager than sell a dozen underperforming overpaid prima-donnas. Utd are also appalling at selling players, and have been for years. Add to that the fact that a lot of those boys are on big money and won't like the ego booting from having to move from such a big club to a 'lesser club'. Harry Maguire refusing to join WH last summer was a prime example. Their wages rule out a lot of potential clubs and their egos will rule out more. Can you see any other "big" club coming in for, say, Martial? Or Dalot?</p><p></p><p>Utd's problems run very deep, and most are not ETH's fault, but it is easier to "fix" the underperforming team by sacking him than fixing the board room or the team.</p><p>Saying that ETH, doesn't help himself. Playing Martial is bizarre. The guy is dreadful and has been for most of his time at Utd (Watch him score 4 on Sunday). Also, a lot of ETH's signings have been poor. Anthony is a winger with no goals or assists this season, he cost £80m. Onana has been very patchy and is he an improvement on DDG? Mason Mount hasn't been a success, albeit he has had a few injuries. Casemiro's legs seem to have gone, and he's bound to be on megabucks so hard to shift. He was only ever going to be an expensive stopgap signing. Granted it looked a "good" signing on paper, ignoring the fee.</p><p>Compare that list, and I ignored players he signed on loan, with the list of his signings who have been a success. Martinez, that's it. He's spent how many hundred million?</p><p></p><p>Last night was hardly a ringing endorsement of ETH's Utd. Yes, they had a tonne of injuries and unavailabilities, but Bayern cruised that game in second gear. Did Neuer make a save that one of us couldn't have made?</p><p> </p><p>I don't think sacking ETH is the right call, as you say, who the **** is available who would do a better job. But the longer Utd continue to regress, and this season cant be seen as anything other than 'regression' the more the pressure mounts on him. And he needs to start helping himself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="weasel, post: 564898, member: 14"] I didn't say I would sack him, I agree it’s daft to give him the boot, I said he must be in danger of the sack, if purely due to the results Utd have had this season. His loss record this year is almost 50%. I don’t care who you are, if you manage a big six/seven side and you lose almost half your games you are going to be in danger of getting the boot. You can see the media circus gathering round OT. They sense blood and want another managerial scalp to help flog papers or generate clicks/views. It’s easier to replace a manager than sell a dozen underperforming overpaid prima-donnas. Utd are also appalling at selling players, and have been for years. Add to that the fact that a lot of those boys are on big money and won’t like the ego booting from having to move from such a big club to a ‘lesser club’. Harry Maguire refusing to join WH last summer was a prime example. Their wages rule out a lot of potential clubs and their egos will rule out more. Can you see any other “big” club coming in for, say, Martial? Or Dalot? Utd’s problems run very deep, and most are not ETH’s fault, but it is easier to “fix” the underperforming team by sacking him than fixing the board room or the team. Saying that ETH, doesn’t help himself. Playing Martial is bizarre. The guy is dreadful and has been for most of his time at Utd (Watch him score 4 on Sunday). Also, a lot of ETH’s signings have been poor. Anthony is a winger with no goals or assists this season, he cost £80m. Onana has been very patchy and is he an improvement on DDG? Mason Mount hasn’t been a success, albeit he has had a few injuries. Casemiro’s legs seem to have gone, and he’s bound to be on megabucks so hard to shift. He was only ever going to be an expensive stopgap signing. Granted it looked a “good” signing on paper, ignoring the fee. Compare that list, and I ignored players he signed on loan, with the list of his signings who have been a success. Martinez, that’s it. He’s spent how many hundred million? Last night was hardly a ringing endorsement of ETH’s Utd. Yes, they had a tonne of injuries and unavailabilities, but Bayern cruised that game in second gear. Did Neuer make a save that one of us couldn't have made? I don’t think sacking ETH is the right call, as you say, who the **** is available who would do a better job. But the longer Utd continue to regress, and this season cant be seen as anything other than ‘regression’ the more the pressure mounts on him. And he needs to start helping himself. [/QUOTE]
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