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Being a Mascot is doing the club a service, the amount of money these clubs turn over, £700 is small change and it's saying you have to be privileged for the honour.

I think it's disgusting and just shows in another way how everything's about money. Just my opinion though. :)
 
Kinda get where you're at, but it's not really small change even for a big club. 330 mascots a year at £700 a pop is almost a quarter of a million quid.
At the top level of (overpaid) player that's a few days wage, but in their youth development centres that's a squad of players wages for the year...
Football is a business, everything has a price and if people pay the price the money gets spent. If people don't pay, I do wonder if the youth development squads suffer as I'm certain the sponsors and shirt sales etc will only want to pay for superstars, irrespective of them all starting in a youth squad somewhere at some point...
 
It's disgraceful and as a WHU fan, it's plain embarrassing :? Always thought it was free until my nephew saved up several hundred to be a mascot for Swansea a few years ago. Was absolutely gobsmacked!

Forest Green Rovers give out free shirts for the local 7-8 year olds, at quite a cost. Makes a mockery of the whole thing!
 
theforceuk said:
cracatilla said:
Never mind being a mascot, how do you get to be a ball boy/girl/person?
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Think they are youth players most the time?
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Yep, they are. A kid at my school is in the Bristol City Academy and he gets to be a ball boy for them. Also know a kid who's with Forest Green and it's the same with them.
 
When did Man City become a Greek team? Booing and hissing every time Liverpool touch the ball :lol:
 
:lol: :lol:

I'd be pist right of if I was a Liverpool fan, Kompany should have been sent of in the first half. 100% a red card, not that I'm complaining.
 
I dunno on the Kompany one. He is the last man, but there is a covering defender who may have got round. Jamie Carragher said something along the lines of it was the type of incident that if you showed it to 10 referees that 2 or 3 would give a red card. That sums it up pretty well for me.
The goal mouth scramble in the first half, after Mane's shot hits the post frustarted me more. That goes in and I reckon Pool would have won.

Saying that, there was very little between the two sides. City prob JUST about deserved to win, they had more half chances and Aguero's and Sterling's chances at the very end came when Pool were going for it. But fine margins decided that game. Mane's shot hits the post and the clearance is 1cm away from being a goal. Aguero buries a beauty from a bloody tight angle and Sane slots home his winner in off the post. Any of those, or Kompany's yellow/non red, go the other way and it's a different result.

It's been a long time since I saw a game played at that intensity for the full 90 mins. It was like a CL knock out second leg. I'm not sure many other sides in the PL could play like that or at that level. Spurs and Chelsea, possibly, no one else though.

Oh and predicted 2-1 City pre game :roll:

On a funny note, Bournemouth just agreed to pay £19+ add ons for Dominic Solanke. He of ONE career goal in English football. That makes him the third most expensive English striker of all time. Explain that to me!? I thought it was only ex-Utd players who paid stupid money for bit part squad players at their old club. Apparemtly Eddie Howe likes doing it to Liverpool.
 
Doesn't matter where the Kompany tackle happened, both feet off the floor, excess forced used. Infact it was worse than the Bailly tackle he got sent off for. Was a brilliant game, although a lot of missed placed passes, think I counted 4 that whent straight out for a throw in? But playing at that tempo it's understandable, England may have a Champions League winner for the first time in 7 years!

Glad Man Utd were not playing either of those teams last night!
 
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Doesn't matter where the Kompany tackle happened, both feet off the floor, excess forced used. Infact it was worse than the Bailly tackle he got sent off for. Was a brilliant game, although a lot of missed placed passes, think I counted 4 that whent straight out for a throw in? But playing at that tempo it's understandable, England may have a Champions League winner for the first time in 7 years!

Glad Man Utd were not playing either of those teams last night!
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I looked at the Kompany tackle more as a last man than for the foul itself, but you and most other people seem to be looking at the actual tackle. I don't disagree it was far from pretty. Still Pool got a lucky call against City in the CL last year so maybe that's evened out now.
I agree on the passes, off the top of my head Mane, Alison and Laporte all passed straight out of play, but I suspect all three were due to the tempo of the game. You did not get a second, especially in midfield.
The CL is quite open this year, you could make a case for 8 or 9 sides to get to the final and anything can happen from there. I do think Pool and City have a chance but will a tight PL title race distract them from CL? Assuming neither side implodes.

Imagine Jose's Utd against either of those sides last night. :eek: :shock:
 
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Now he's gone I realise what a mess he had got us in. The thing for me is Man Utd haven't played as well over the last 4 games since Alex Ferguson retired IMO, performance level dropped against Newcastle. For me it was a gradual thing. I mean LVG's style was even worse I think? On paper the sqaud we have is good enough to challenge for anything and I'm not saying we don't need some better players at the back or we are going to challenge for the CL this season (PSG will knock us out) but I actually look forward to watching them play again.

Thing is with me in football their is to many knee-jerk reactions, a month ago Liverpool were going to fall behind and City were looking unstoppable. Then Liverpool were going to go and run away with it and now they have been beaten the title race is wide open!!! Spurs are still in it, things can change fast and IMO the other 18 teams are going to find it very hard to beat Liverpool, but perhaps not City......
 
theforceuk said:
Now he's gone I realise what a mess he had got us in. The thing for me is Man Utd haven't played as well over the last 4 games since Alex Ferguson retired IMO, performance level dropped against Newcastle. For me it was a gradual thing. I mean LVG's style was even worse I think? On paper the sqaud we have is good enough to challenge for anything and I'm not saying we don't need some better players at the back or we are going to challenge for the CL this season (PSG will knock us out) but I actually look forward to watching them play again.
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I'll take that as you admitting I was right about Jose :wink: :lol:
I may be an ABU and a Liverpool fan but I do try to be impartial. Even on
Utd.
Besides, I have had plenty of experiencewatching various managers phone in performances for months on end as they slowly drag the club down. Brendan, Roy, Graham, I'm looking at you!!

I do agree Utd haven't been the same since Fergy left, but as I said before his last title winning side was (at the time) the 'worst' side to win the title for a long long time. That's not a dig at him or Utd, it's quite the opposite, it's a compliment to be able to get such a poor side crowned champions takes serious talent. Plus, if that's a dig at Utd, what does it say about a Pool side who finished precisely nowhere!?

The problem at Utd is the fact they get to pay so much for the privilege of being owned by the glaziers, and that they are run as a business not a football club. Money first. Football second.
 
And Spurs get lucky again, just scraping past a league two side and no more! :wink:
 
I was wrong about Jose, I wanted him from the start instead of Moyes and I still say if he had come in straight after Fergy we would have won a league title within 2 or 3 seasons of him retiring. I've got no problem admitting when I'm wrong I would have been deforced years ago otherwise!!!

The 2011 Man Utd was the worst Man Utd team to win the PL IMO, it was a case of Man City and Chelsea being really **** as to us being good. Fergy managed to win 5 league titles and a CL under the Glaziers ownership, spending less than Chelsea and City. With the right man in charge and the spending money the club should still be challenging. Fergy was not only a manager but a director of football as well.

Here's a good stat, Man Utd haven't beaten a top 6 team in a FA Cup final since 1996. They have beaten Newcastle (1999), Millwall (2004) and Crystal Palace (2016). Loosing to Arsenal (2005 and Chelsea (2007 & 2018).
 
To an extent the initial years of Glazier ownership had no real effect on the club. It's only longer term it starts to shine through. The £100m a year you pay them as a "thanks for buying us with debt secured against our own assets and putting a sum total of none of your own money in" only starst to take effect years down the line. Suddenly instead of replacing (say) Rooney with Harry Kane, you now have to look for a cheaper option. That has a compounding effect as 8 or 9 out of 10 players are replaced with 7 or 8 out of 10.
Obviously you can still get lucky and buy a rough diamond who comes good or a player who excedes expectations. Pool did it with Torres, Suarez and Salah. But for each of them there is an Andy Carroll, Stewart Downing, or a Alberto Aquilani.

In the ten years or so the Glaziers have "owned" Utd they have paid themselves however many hundreds of millions, that is money that would otherwise have been spent on the squad, facilities, scouting, youth development etc. As time goes by that drain on resources has more and more effect.
 
No doubt it's bad for the club, but Man Utd should still be competing with the best. They turn over more than £100 million more than City, £200 million more than Liverpool.

I've met fans that refuse to go while the Glaziers are in charge and I'm starting to lean this way, although I don't entirely agree on turning your back on a club because of who it's owned by.

Utd can still compete with anyone in the transfer market, even City who pump millions in artificially.
 
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