Luke Stormy blaster, possible variations

[JuniorChubb]

To save taking over a for sale thread it is probably best for further discussion and examples of Luke Stormies Blaster to be posted and discussed here.

Here is the original thread for reference http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=20603

Here is a link the Suke's thread on RS http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1109809/

Square barrel and round barrel? Only you can decide... :wink:

 

[aussiejames]

 

[JuniorChubb]

:lol: Okay smart arse...

Thats what I meant. Where is that edit button :lol:

 

[Suke_Lkywalker]

There's no point in a study and learning if you are not willing to learn new things yourself, aussiejames said that there's a possibility of this blaster being issued with luke, all the data needs to be taken into account, whether you agree with it or not. I used a super bright torch on the gun when I tested it and the blaster does not transmit any light anywhere,that's something your going to have to accept.

Anyway like suggested before it would be good to start a thread in the right section for this, and that's not here.

I'm more than willing to learn, that's why I'm furthering the discussion. It's you that has taken a stance of "I have had it a long time, its original".

This blaster you sold deviates in all regards to known Luke Stormtrooper originals, and conforms to known non-luke Blasters. As for the light test, there are ESB era blue/dark blue blasters that are also completely opaque, should we accept them as Luke blasters solely on this alone?

Secondly, the pictures provided are very blurry, so it's impossible to do a fair study.

You say I have to "accept" the fact the blaster does not transmit light (which is not the final conclusion of the matter, but I digress); well, I think you need to accept you can not demonstrate how this is an original Luke Blaster, whereas I'm proposing a stance based on factual comparison. If this blaster can be found in a MOC, excellent, than collective knowledge will be gained and expanded on.

If new variants are found through discussion and research, great, but selling things that veer off from proven originals serves nobody well, especially the buyer.

 

[PIGCITY]

There's no point in a study and learning if you are not willing to learn new things yourself, aussiejames said that there's a possibility of this blaster being issued with luke, all the data needs to be taken into account, whether you agree with it or not. I used a super bright torch on the gun when I tested it and the blaster does not transmit any light anywhere,that's something your going to have to accept.

Anyway like suggested before it would be good to start a thread in the right section for this, and that's not here.

I'm more than willing to learn, that's why I'm furthering the discussion. It's you that has taken a stance of "I have had it a long time, its original".

This blaster you sold deviates in all regards to known Luke Stormtrooper originals, and conforms to known non-luke Blasters. As for the light test, there are ESB era blue/dark blue blasters that are also completely opaque, should we accept them as Luke blasters solely on this alone?

Secondly, the pictures provided are very blurry, so it's impossible to do a fair study.

You say I have to "accept" the fact the blaster does not transmit light (which is not the final conclusion of the matter, but I digress); well, I think you need to accept you can not demonstrate how this is an original Luke Blaster, whereas I'm proposing a stance based on factual comparison. If this blaster can be found in a MOC, excellent, than collective knowledge will be gained and expanded on.

If new variants are found through discussion and research, great, but selling things that veer off from proven originals serves nobody well, especially the buyer.

All valid points but as new member on this forum I would have maybe adjusted your tone in some of the posts.

 

[Suke_Lkywalker]

I mean no ill tone, certainly not my intention. I apologize if it comes across as such.

I'm just interested in furthering the discussion on this topic.

Cheers.


PS:

awesome .gif, btw.

 

[pizzathehutt]

i thought peeps were checking there carded luke stormies? anything back on those?

 

[Nick_IoW]

Just checked my POTF and Trilogo mocs. The POTF has a totally solid dull black blaster, and the Trilogo is not as black and has translucent areas when held up to the light. So it definitely has at least 2 variations available for loose figures to be paired with.

So - maybe some injustice has been done to the 3 blasters that Suke got with his.

Sometimes its better to find out before making accusations.

 

[fuzzybuzzytoys]

Just checked my POTF and Trilogo mocs. The POTF has a totally solid dull black blaster, and the Trilogo is not as black and has translucent areas when held up to the light. So it definitely has at least 2 variations available for loose figures to be paired with.

So - maybe some injustice has been done to the 3 blasters that Suke got with his.

Sometimes its better to find out before making accusations.

Are the barrels square or rounded?

 

[Nick_IoW]

Are the barrels square or rounded?

POTF no1 = Solid dull black.
POTF no2 = Translucent areas - notably front of scope and the round barrel at the front.
Trilogo = Identical to POTF no2.

Neither POTF no2 nor Trilogo look proper black (more or an extremely dark blue, almost black if that makes sense), nor are they dull like POTF no 1. The translucent spots look bluey/green similar to other imperial blasters.

Hope that helps.

 

[momike]

Ive just had a look at my luke stormie which i removed from a very damaged/cut tri logo card and the weapon is the same as the one (no dot on the clip) that was for sale and is also solid matt black

 

[sparkysx]

Ive just had a look at my luke stormie which i removed from a very damaged/cut tri logo card and the weapon is the same as the one (no dot on the clip) that was for sale and is also solid matt black

So the same as the one that I sold?

 

[momike]

Looks to be the same to me, it has a Matt finish and almost looks like it's painted.

 

[sparkysx]

Sounds exactly the same to me. It's being sent back now, but I will feel 100% about pairing it up with my old Luke if it can be located, (providing he hasn't been torn limb from limb by now) if not I can put it with another one.

Thanks for checking and confirming what I already knew was the case.

 

[aussiejames]

sparkysx can you confirm that yours is a V4

or V5

the detail on the handgrip is how I tell them apart (tiny bump pattern vs diamond lines)

 

[sparkysx]

out of those two it looks like the bottom one.

 

[sparkysx]

is the bottom one solid black with no see through?

 

[Stormtrooper37]

Interesting thread

I've checked my AFA Trilogo Luke Stormie.

It has a dull matt black finish - not glossy at all, rounded barrel at the front, no pin mark that I can see.

The 'Blackness' of it is not jet black by any means it's more of a dull black

 

[theforceuk]

This is an interesting subject. Which is subjective to the individual collector. Kenner knocked out a lot of stuff towards the end of the line which was a case of mix and match. You could say that Luke Stormtrooper was put with a stormtrooper blaster full stop. Many collectors will never consider this as a possible conclusion. But many collectors would be happy with this. It's a case of individual preferance as it is ultimately impossible to prove what varients Luke Stormtrooper was packaged with. :roll: