Is it wrong if........?

[wrighty]

I am looking to buy an item that has an inflated price (almost double) since the current owner bought it about say 6 months ago, so would I be in the spirit of collecting if I also sell a piece at an inflated price to fund the purchase of the piece I need? Or would that be against the collecting spirit? :?:

 

[Mr-shifter]

Is this that large ledy jawa?

It's really up to you. Are you happy to pay double the price for why you are buying? Are you patient enough to wait for another? Is it a fair price or are you being impatient. Do you care about your reputation enough to be branded a flipper, because no matter how much you try to justify it, if you got the item that you are selling recently and process it at double the price, that is what people will say.

It's all up to you really. It's a bit of a **** thing the other person is doing. Greed is a horrible trait of this hobby.

Plus this sort of thing directly contributes to stupidly rising prices.

 

[wrighty]

That's my question is it greed if you funding greed? That is playing the game!! :twisted:

 

[theforceuk]

Sell it take the money and run. :lol:

 

[Mr-shifter]

That's my question is it greed if you funding greed? That is playing the game!! :twisted:

It's up to you really. You are never going to get a black and white answer. Some people will say go for it, others will not.

Can I ask you a question? Are you looking for approval for what you are doing. If that's the case why do you feel you need it? They are your pieces and it's your money. Surely it comes down to wether you feel it's wrong or not.

At the end of the day it is no one else's business but yours.

 

[wrighty]

Hey Ben, absolutely not seeking approval as we are all adults. It's just a topic for discussion! There was also a thread on the display FB page discussing about back dooring on item already sold which lead to discussing if collectors are helping collectors? e.g. If you spot a Vlix at $100 BIN on eBay do you buy it and profit from the seller's mistake or message the seller to say add a few zeros to your price mate. I already made my mind up!

 

[Lindo]

Do as you wish with your stuff, don't think anyone really cares tbh

 

[jared007]

Do what feels right to you.

But a rising tide lifts all ships, and that's exactly what's going on with prices across the board in our hobby. To sell a piece to fund the purchase of another is fine. If you don't sell at the *inflated market* price, then chances are you won't be able to buy the other item at *inflated market price*.

 

[Nick_IoW]

If it's one of the TWO poch moc jawas you bought - I will put my foot up your arse.

 

[Palifan]

If it's one of the TWO poch moc jawas you bought - I will put my foot up your arse.

I think there's your answer there if you bought from someone intending to never sell it on. I don't think it would be worth it from s friendship point of view but if it's not one of these items then that might change things.

I'm one person who hates the flipping thing but there are always exceptions. If you bought something fair and square 6 months ago and can now find a buyer who is willing to pay you double then that should be fine, it's more people who snap something up knowing that they'll instantly sell it that annoys me. I've bought things in the past that I thought were at a good price and I might not come across again to then see the same thing listed a week later at half the price. Sometimes I've bought the item again as the deal was really good with the thought of selling one on at some point. To date I've still not resold any of these items so it's just becoming an ever growing pile of stuff to sell at a later date :lol:. If however you bought something by either wearing the seller down or saying it would never leave your collection (unless there's a financial disaster in your life), then that's a different thing. If you contact the seller and explain things at least it might make you feel better but I know this isn't always possible.

It's tricky for sure when something comes up you're after and the fact that it's doubled in price is neither here nor there as if you think it's not worth that amount then you simply don't buy it, but if you're happy enough with the deal maybe there's something else you could let go of to secure the deal and not burn any bridges.

Just my thoughts and as I mentioned there are so many factors that come into this question that it's hard to know what I would do without having all the facts.

Ian

 

[wrighty]

Haha Nick. Those 2 are staying for now unless you have something to tempt me! :lol:

If it's one of the TWO poch moc jawas you bought - I will put my foot up your arse.

 

[Joe]

Selling items for a profit ISN'T "wrong" if:

• You bought the item fair and square for a price that was under market value
• Someone contacts you and makes a high offer on a piece you own
• The market price rises on an item after you purchase it


Selling items for a profit IS "wrong" if:

• You lowball or take advantage of someone with the intention to flip whatever it is you are buying
• You misrepresent or lie about the rarity/importance of an item in order to achieve a higher price
• You play potential buyers off against each other in order to get the "best" price for your item

I'm sure you could go on and on about the rights and wrongs of selling for profit but at the end of the day it comes down to treating people with respect.

It's definitely harder not to take the money and run these days and I think if given the chance most people on here would sell an item on for profit if they weren't that attached to it however you still have to conduct yourself properly.

Ultimately greed is the root of all the problems in this hobby, so if you care about your reputation (because we are worse than women for gossiping) and your overall impact on the hobby then do your best to buy and sell in a way that leaves you with a clear conscience.

Collecting should be a fun hobby and not a bunch of people worried about how much money they've made or can make out of others - leave that to the stocks & shares traders!

 

[SOJ]

I don't know why but I don't have an issue flipping loose figures when I get my hands on job lot. Doesn't bother me at all.

But with MOC's I have a difficult time and have mainly only sold them for what originally paid for them. I mainly sell one when I get an upgrade. I know several times I've under sold them, but hey I get back what put in and the buyers happy.

Certainly if it's a special piece your selling why the hell not. As I offen hear, something is only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it. If you peg it too high it just won't sell and you'll miss out on the Jawa anyway.

I'd let the seller stew for a bit and try to get him to down.

 

[theforceuk]

Flipping sucks, but if someone can't be bothered to do their research and pay more for something than it's worth who's fault is that? Especially for something that their are hundreds or even thousands of, it's the I want it now mentality I spose, money no problem.

 

[plantman]

just sell it for the going rate, just because your making a profit doesn't make it wrong, Joe pretty much sums it up well.

Majority of us need to make a little just to stay in the hobby

 

[Andreg]

Selling items for a profit ISN'T "wrong" if:

• You bought the item fair and square for a price that was under market value
• Someone contacts you and makes a high offer on a piece you own
• The market price rises on an item after you purchase it


Selling items for a profit IS "wrong" if:

• You lowball or take advantage of someone with the intention to flip whatever it is you are buying
• You misrepresent or lie about the rarity/importance of an item in order to achieve a higher price
• You play potential buyers off against each other in order to get the "best" price for your item

I'm sure you could go on and on about the rights and wrongs of selling for profit but at the end of the day it comes down to treating people with respect.

It's definitely harder not to take the money and run these days and I think if given the chance most people on here would sell an item on for profit if they weren't that attached to it however you still have to conduct yourself properly.

Ultimately greed is the root of all the problems in this hobby, so if you care about your reputation (because we are worse than women for gossiping) and your overall impact on the hobby then do your best to buy and sell in a way that leaves you with a clear conscience.

Collecting should be a fun hobby and not a bunch of people worried about how much money they've made or can make out of others - leave that to the stocks & shares traders!

 

[lejackal]

Selling items for a profit ISN'T "wrong" if:

• You bought the item fair and square for a price that was under market value
• Someone contacts you and makes a high offer on a piece you own
• The market price rises on an item after you purchase it


Selling items for a profit IS "wrong" if:

• You lowball or take advantage of someone with the intention to flip whatever it is you are buying
• You misrepresent or lie about the rarity/importance of an item in order to achieve a higher price
• You play potential buyers off against each other in order to get the "best" price for your item

I'm sure you could go on and on about the rights and wrongs of selling for profit but at the end of the day it comes down to treating people with respect.

It's definitely harder not to take the money and run these days and I think if given the chance most people on here would sell an item on for profit if they weren't that attached to it however you still have to conduct yourself properly.

Ultimately greed is the root of all the problems in this hobby, so if you care about your reputation (because we are worse than women for gossiping) and your overall impact on the hobby then do your best to buy and sell in a way that leaves you with a clear conscience.

Collecting should be a fun hobby and not a bunch of people worried about how much money they've made or can make out of others - leave that to the stocks & shares traders!

So what is the best advice you could give a newbie starting out right now?

My best advice for a newbie would be, don't rush it... Last year Andreg came in like a wrecking ball and burned out within only a few months never to be heard from again! DON'T DO IT!

I even remember Andreg any word on the guy? I think I joined around the same time as him.

You would probably remember those videos he would make in the LA thread... The ones where he would cut open boxes with a massive carving knife :lol: Also, he had hundreds of last 17 loose figures he wanted to trade for boxed / MOC items. The last time I spoke to him was way back in Jan.

You've only gone and summoned him!

Welcome back mate!

 

[indianawars]

Selling items for a profit ISN'T "wrong" if:

• You bought the item fair and square for a price that was under market value
• Someone contacts you and makes a high offer on a piece you own
• The market price rises on an item after you purchase it


Selling items for a profit IS "wrong" if:

• You lowball or take advantage of someone with the intention to flip whatever it is you are buying
• You misrepresent or lie about the rarity/importance of an item in order to achieve a higher price
• You play potential buyers off against each other in order to get the "best" price for your item

I'm sure you could go on and on about the rights and wrongs of selling for profit but at the end of the day it comes down to treating people with respect.

It's definitely harder not to take the money and run these days and I think if given the chance most people on here would sell an item on for profit if they weren't that attached to it however you still have to conduct yourself properly.

Ultimately greed is the root of all the problems in this hobby, so if you care about your reputation (because we are worse than women for gossiping) and your overall impact on the hobby then do your best to buy and sell in a way that leaves you with a clear conscience.

Collecting should be a fun hobby and not a bunch of people worried about how much money they've made or can make out of others - leave that to the stocks & shares traders!

I even remember Andreg any word on the guy? I think I joined around the same time as him.

You would probably remember those videos he would make in the LA thread... The ones where he would cut open boxes with a massive carving knife :lol: Also, he had hundreds of last 17 loose figures he wanted to trade for boxed / MOC items. The last time I spoke to him was way back in Jan.

You've only gone and summoned him!

Welcome back mate!

:lol: :lol: Honestly, what are the odd of mentioning somebody, only for them to become active a few days later?! Fantastic... Only on SWFUK.

 

[lejackal]

Selling items for a profit ISN'T "wrong" if:

• You bought the item fair and square for a price that was under market value
• Someone contacts you and makes a high offer on a piece you own
• The market price rises on an item after you purchase it


Selling items for a profit IS "wrong" if:

• You lowball or take advantage of someone with the intention to flip whatever it is you are buying
• You misrepresent or lie about the rarity/importance of an item in order to achieve a higher price
• You play potential buyers off against each other in order to get the "best" price for your item

I'm sure you could go on and on about the rights and wrongs of selling for profit but at the end of the day it comes down to treating people with respect.

It's definitely harder not to take the money and run these days and I think if given the chance most people on here would sell an item on for profit if they weren't that attached to it however you still have to conduct yourself properly.

Ultimately greed is the root of all the problems in this hobby, so if you care about your reputation (because we are worse than women for gossiping) and your overall impact on the hobby then do your best to buy and sell in a way that leaves you with a clear conscience.

Collecting should be a fun hobby and not a bunch of people worried about how much money they've made or can make out of others - leave that to the stocks & shares traders!

Maybe it's like Beetlejuice :lol:

 

[ScruffyLookingNH]

Andreg, Andreg, Andreg