Hunting

[yoda]

My friend took me out hunting my arm wasn't twisted ! Just wondering opinions on this topic.
Just so you know where I stand I was raised on a farm which had animals and crops.

 

[lejackal]

I suppose it depends what you were hunting, baby seals look cute so I'm probably against that. Unless you're arming the seals? Can you do that?

 

[yoda]

In short No. Mostly Fox and Deer. Where is this happening Japan? Are they killing the seals for fun ? Or food?

 

[Dorsetmark]

My family have 2 farms but still think hunting is barbaric
Like they say killing animals for fun is the first step to becoming a psychopathic murderer
So don't think this is the place to raise this topic

 

[Michael Sith]

My family have 2 farms but still think hunting is barbaric
Like they say killing animals for fun is the first step to becoming a psychopathic murderer
So don't think this is the place to raise this topic

Firmly in the same camp.

Fun? Sport? Nope

 

[spoons]

My family have 2 farms but still think hunting is barbaric
Like they say killing animals for fun is the first step to becoming a psychopathic murderer
So don't think this is the place to raise this topic

Firmly in the same camp.

Fun? Sport? Nope

Agreed - no place in a civilised society unless you're hunting for food (and even then supermarkets are fairly common)

 

[Grant_C]

Grew up on a farm where hunting part of the DNA of the community.

But I think Blood Lust is a weak characteristic.

I also think that killing of animals for sport shows that the hunter has never considered or have an understanding of the universe size scale of the miracle of life.

I could go on, but it will end up offending someone.

If someone is hunting for fleeting cheap thrills. Down your tools and Make it a fair fight. Go Mano-e-Mano. Then you could carry lofty prestigious title of 'Hunter' and curse those who only pull triggers and Tie knots.

I feel slightly more open on fishing strangely enough.

 

[peekaygee73]

Yup, in firm agreement with everyone else on this one. Humane pest control is one thing but, to me, hunting for 'fun'/'sport' is barbaric.

 

[yoda]

I think a few stated this is perhaps not the best topic to bring up on this forum. So my opoliges for starting this topic.
My mate actually stalks deer for human consumption. And the foxes are pest control around where I live. Alot of lambs be lost due to foxes where I live so the fox is not very popular.
As for me I see nothing wrong with what he does. I am a meat eater myself so I can't really disagree with what he does.

 

[x-pack]

My stepdad was well into his hunting of game back in the 80's. It never really bothered me and in the end he didn't feel comfortable with it and gave up. My first job was in a garage owned by a hunting fanatic. Out the back in the stables there would always be some dead animal hanging up, drying out. At the time it didn't bother me much.

i don't understand the mindset of someone who wants to kill a living creature but it doesn't bother me that people hunt rabbits and stuff like that. But when you think about it what's the difference between hunting a rabbit and shooting a Lion? Still a living being :?

So hunting doesn't appeal to me. But I understand that other people kill animals, and it doesn't upset me too much. Hunting rare animals is something I just cannot comprehend. Those Tiger shooting types baffle me.

 

[Gorneesh]

I was not raised on a farm but I was brought up in the country, with a Dad who is heavily into shooting, so I've been brought up with guns and even the odd fox hunt (which in my eyes should not have been banned)
I still go pheasant shooting but I would like to add that all game shot by me gets eaten (yes that includes the Squirells)

 

[x-pack]

I was not raised on a farm but I was brought up in the country, with a Dad who is heavily into shooting, so I've been brought up with guns and even the odd fox hunt (which in my eyes should not have been banned)
I still go pheasant shooting but I would like to add that all game shot by me gets eaten (yes that includes the Squirells)

I think that's fair enough. Not for me, but hunting for food is what men have always done. Hunting for 'sport' is probably where the lines blur.

 

[Gorneesh]

I was not raised on a farm but I was brought up in the country, with a Dad who is heavily into shooting, so I've been brought up with guns and even the odd fox hunt (which in my eyes should not have been banned)
I still go pheasant shooting but I would like to add that all game shot by me gets eaten (yes that includes the Squirells)

I think that's fair enough. Not for me, but hunting for food is what men have always done. Hunting for 'sport' is probably where the lines blur.

I have been invited on shoots, but turned them down because I know that they just put up so many birds the sky goes black and you can't miss, then at the end of the day they just put all the birds into a hole in the ground.

 

[kingshearer]

Never agreed with hunting especially those toffs on horseback who are 'keeping the tradition' alive.
I also think guns should be outlawed and only kept by the military and Star wars collectors.

 

[grinchy]

Not something i'm in favour of personally, especially if done for sport, don't see the appeal of it, and don't get me started on fox hunting, sickening!

 

[Grant_C]

It's a polarising topic, that's for sure.

 

[yoda]

I have no doubt there are people out there who do get some sort of sick trill out of hurting animals.
I once back packed through Asia and heard stories trickling out of one of them countries on the back packer trail which I thought was one of them urban myths.
Once I got there and got talking to fellow backpackers after they had a few drinks I was shocked what they were doing. And I would have a pretty strong stomach. I couldn't get my head around how they could sit and laugh about people being cruel to animals.

 

[tobedesu]

100% against.
As far as the comment regarding foxes taking lambs, sad as it may be, isn't that part of nature?
I think that is a moot point in defence of hunting.
A fox is carniverous, it knows only to survive and a lamb is an easy prey. The farm basically provides that source of food for the fox.
The lamb means nothing other than the pounds it will bring to the farmer.

There was a story in the papers a long time ago that, I forget which country, the villagers had caught and tied up an orangutan for "stealing" fruit and veg from a market stall.
There was the picture of this orangutan with its young clinging to it shortly before it was stoned to death.
The problem herein is that humans believe that this is their planet.
A surfer gets mauled by a shark and the next morning there's a hunting party out trying to catch the shark.
So, how do they know which shark to catch? Is it the one with the moustache and the blonde hair, or maybe the slightly bolding, stocky one with a tattoo of a naked lady on its fin? It's absurd.

If one needs to kill an animal to survive, I can understand it. But regular folk don't need that.
Other than that, the fact is to go hunting one enjoys the satisfaction of inflicting pain, suffering, and death of a living thing.

 

[yoda]

Yes you are correct the fox is only trying to survive by killing lambs. It's nature but the sad thing is until people stop eating lamb of course the farmer will do his upmost to help the lamb survive. And unfortunately for the fox around sheep farms that will always make them unpopular. While the food source is there for the fox of course it will attack it's prey. And once that happens the farmer will do anything to prevent it from happening again the following night because the fox will never stop. Its fine everyone has there opinion. But I can't ever see it being any different for the fox as long as there is still a market for lamb meat. I would be curious to know if you had sheep with lambs and one was getting lifted every night which is what happens once it starts would your opinion change? If you were depending on the lamb surviving for your income. Or how would you prevent the fox from coming back?
I just want to make clear when I mentioned fox hunting I do not mean chasing them with horses and dogs. That's not for me but everyone to there own. I don't and wouldn't have any interest in that.
What I ment was hunting the fox the following night when it comes back. As it always will once it got the easy meal. This is normally done for the period of the lambing season until they are big enough to fend for themselves.
As I stated earlier this probably is not the best place to bring this topic up so my opoliges. It will be never ending with everyone having different views on the topic. The fact is while humans continue to eat any source of meat of course animals will suffer.

 

[Grant]

For the most part I hate hunters, they are cunts. I feel I can say that because many of my ancestors used to hunt. Having said that I like sirloin and fillet steak. Life's a **** sometimes. I had a friend who worked at the Tulip factory where they killed 3000+ pigs a day. They did it the most human way possible. The pigs were lowered down on an elevator type thing. By the time they got to the bottom of the ride they had been gassed to death. There was a vet on sight always to ensure it was done to a standard. Still barbaric but at least they weren't electrocuted and then had their throats slit like they used to do.

Just look at that prick who shot that lion last year. I'd happily shoot that **** in the head, then piss on his corpse. Rant over. 8)