Fake SW collectors?

[subzero]

In martial arts there's a thing called 'fake black belts' where complete delusional idiots like to pretend they're expert black belts, and trick and defraud the community ( even teaching students lol ) pretending to be something that they're not just so they can look good. Eventually ( or very quickly ) they get noticed by genuine experts in the field and called out on their fakery and expose them to the community. Not just in martial arts but in other hobbies & interests too there's always been complete fakers, I find this quite interesting in what makes these people think and act that way.

My point & question is, has there ever been a well known 'fake collector' in the vintage SW community online or in the real world?.. ie, someone who pretends they have certain rare items or even a massive collection just to try and make themselves look good to the collecting community?, when in reality they don't own anything, maybe even going to great lengths to showing pics of items that they don't own?

This is something I could prob see happening maybe on facebook. :lol:

 

[Snaketibe]

A fake collector? I suppose they might exist, but I've never heard of one.

Changing the subject completely, I thought perhaps you might like to see a photo of me in front of some new shelves I've just bought:

 

[kieatky]

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I call '********', there's no way that suit is real :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[subzero]

:lol: :lol:

That's class!

 

[user 5830]

A fake collector? I suppose they might exist, but I've never heard of one.

Changing the subject completely, I thought perhaps you might like to see a photo of me in front of some new shelves I've just bought:

New Acquisition.jpg

Nice collection you have there, thanks for sharing... :lol:

 

[subzero]

Suppose I might as well follow up with a legit pic of me sitting in my collection room! :lol:

 

[yoda]

:lol: :lol:

 

[x-wingMark]

Let's face it we would need their money to afford those pieces in our collections.

Great photos by the way. :lol:

 

[Mr-shifter]

Anyway, the origional argument is ********.

Mr miyagi taught us all that the belt colour doesn't matter.

 

[Mini99]

Mr miyagi taught us all that the belt colour doesn't matter.

:lol:

 

[Wreck-It Ralph]

I guess if you were a new forum member that no one new and you claimed to have a lot of stuff from a childhood collection or you just inherited a large collection from your uncle or something and you didn't showcase, I guess that could work!

If I was to go on the forum and say I had just purchased a 30 Back Vader from an unnamed source it would be difficult to determine whether it was true or not especially if I did not showcase and would not show the item to anyone in digital or actual form.

 

[StarWarsFan]

Well when the Star Wars was the craze this idiot I went to school with, just use to collect them to rub it in peoples face that he had rare ones. He never was a SW Fan.

 

[subzero]

Well when the Star Wars was the craze this idiot I went to school just use to collect them to rub it in peoples face that he had rare ones. He never was a SW Fan.

Ahh there we go there's almost a fake collector, a collector who's a fake SW fan.

Someone I worked with back when Revenge of The Sith came out who was known as a bit of a 'Billy bullshitter' was telling us all the next day after the first day cinema release he went and watched it and you could just tell by the way he was saying it that he didn't lol, he even said it was amazing and it was on for 3 hours :lol: . Nob-end just wanted to be part of the crowd cus everyone else was chatting & raving about the film on it's release week.

 

[StarWarsFan]

Well thinking about it, yes I do know a fake Star Wars collector my idiot cousin, he started buying and asking for figures not long after I started collecting (20 years ago). Claimed he was big into collecting and wanted to get serious. In the end ended up with about 20 most were POTF2 figures, his mum painted nail varnish on the feet so he knew they were his. After a couple of months or so of "collecting" ended up in toy box never to seen again.

 

[_Lee_]

I wouldn't say 'fake' but there are a few Ponce's around who seem to think they have the right to 'Lord it up' so to speak. They think if they throw money away like confetti then it gives them that right. Another thing is where they seem to think another collector isn't a real collector of any particular line unless they own a full complete set of figures or whatever. I've heard that mentioned a few times over the years, even from a collector who looked down on another because he didn't have a moc set. However the collector being judged knew 100 times more than the collector judging him. It makes him look a tube .Things like this are never forgotten and will affect someone's ability to make good contacts and also give him a bad name in the hobby and they will never recover from that.

I'm afraid that because the market is now saturated with Star Wars, it isn't the toys that appeal anymore. Its the props, replicas, autographs and general ephemera that are taking over.

 

[Wreck-It Ralph]

I do enjoy all the labels on this forum Fake, Ponce, Investor I wonder which one I am?

 

[spoons]

Definitely a few on Facebook. That Jake chap with his multiple alter egos is the obvious one.

Created at least one drama so that he could be the one to solve it :roll:

 

[Michael Sith]

The collecting community is like any other part of life, you get all sorts collecting for all sorts of reasons. This forum welcomes all who collect, beginners to experts, high end collectors to budget collectors, all of which have a common theme, the passion for the hobby, and the general buzz of collecting for themselves, to also learn and to research to further knowledge overall or in the particular area they are collecting.
I have found over the years, especially through this forum and the genuine collectors you interact with, the value of something or its rarity are secondary to the genuine reactions of " great pick up, really pleased for you, well deserved " comments from budget and high end collectors alike, who are all chuffed for you.
We are collecting and we are passionate, but it's a hobby all the same, the real things in life are what count, family, happiness and health, they are the "grails"

"My house, my car, my bank account is bigger than yours", it's about the person who lives in t hat house, drives that car and has that bank account.
As with all walks of life genuine good guys are just, that regardless of their collection or bank balance.
Having said all of that, life's too short for negativity, those that get wrapped up in it are missing out on the good things in life

 

[aussiejames]

I find this quite interesting in what makes these people think and act that way.

My point & question is, has there ever been a well known 'fake collector' in the vintage SW community online or in the real world?.. ie, someone who pretends they have certain rare items or even a massive collection just to try and make themselves look good to the collecting community?, when in reality they don't own anything, maybe even going to great lengths to showing pics of items that they don't own?

This is something I could prob see happening maybe on facebook. :lol:

that describes John Walsh aka bobablarcfett- why do people do it?? Attention seeking ******* morons.

 

[subzero]

I find this quite interesting in what makes these people think and act that way.

My point & question is, has there ever been a well known 'fake collector' in the vintage SW community online or in the real world?.. ie, someone who pretends they have certain rare items or even a massive collection just to try and make themselves look good to the collecting community?, when in reality they don't own anything, maybe even going to great lengths to showing pics of items that they don't own?

This is something I could prob see happening maybe on facebook. :lol:

that describes John Walsh aka bobablarcfett- why do people do it?? Attention seeking ******* morons.

And we have a winner!

Are you sure his name isn't bumbaclartfett? :lol:

 

[tiefighterboy]

There are a lot of fake people who collect, is that the same? :lol:

 

[wrighty]

Well, if you followed recent drama of the SW Battles group discussion, non-collectors won items and try to resell them at market price, is that a fake collector taking advantage of the lottery system to make money from true collectors? :?

 

[spoons]

Well, if you followed recent drama of the SW Battles group discussion, non-collectors won items and try to resell them at market price, is that a fake collector taking advantage of the lottery system to make money from true collectors? :?

They aren't fake collectors in my eyes. They are not collectors at all, closer to investors taking advantage of a crazy market.

Pretending they wanted the item and then selling it is a different matter, and that's what I'd call fake

Neither situation is great

 

[starshipriot]

Not collecting but still Star Wars related. There used to be a site called supershadow and the guy used to claim he was pals with Lucas and upload plot details for episode III, VII, VIII and IX, as well as uploading photos of models he claimed were girlfriends.


He even has his own wookiepedia page if anyones interested



http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/SuperShadow

 

[subzero]

Not collecting but still Star Wars related. There used to be a site called supershadow and the guy used to claim he was pals with Lucas and upload plot details for episode III, VII, VIII and IX, as well as uploading photos of models he claimed were girlfriends.


He even has his own wookiepedia page if anyones interested



http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/SuperShadow

Interesting little read, never heard of that guy before, some people are completely delusional and love to pretend to people that they're 'a somebody' when they're not.

I knew a guy like that from school, the lies he used to come out with were laughable, like when he told everyone for months he had a small cameo part in the 2nd matrix film ( before it was being filmed ), this guy was well known as a complete douche by everybody, used to say he'd been with all these different girls when he never actually did. And nearly 20 years later I added him on facebook and lowe and behold he hadn't changed at all, constantly posting **** about crazy things he's done trying to make himself sound like some celebrity, did a post once saying he found out he's a direct descendant from Spartans lol ( funny how he said this only weeks after the film 300 was out ), and posted once that he was in talks with Channel 4 about making his own TV program about his life and said it was due to air on 'x-date' and it never happened lmao. I called him out on it on one of his status' for everyone to see and he blocked me. :lol:

Sad part is all the hundreds of his 'friends' didn't actually know him in real life and believed everything he said, replying to his posts saying congratulations and all that ****, quite entertaining to watch actually. :lol:

 

[Mini99]

Is this not a sad reflection in our society and the constant need (mainly the young) for fame and instant gratification! :?
Sad really...

 

[Michael Sith]

There are a lot of fake people who collect, is that the same? :lol:

Concise and spot on !

 

[Starrider]

As owner of a sci fi/comic shop for the last 20 years, I have come across a lot of people over the years who claim to have rare items usually large collections of original carded Star Wars figures supposedly never touched in pristine condition but produce zero evidence they have them. Usually they say they want to sell them and will bring them in to show me. In every instance without fail I've never heard anything again. Its pretty obvious that either they dont have the items at all or at best only have played with loose ones. Quite what they get out of claiming to have these collections I'm not sure, as obviously I'm not going to part with any cash till I've seen them. I think in some naive way they think it impresses me.

 

[subzero]

As owner of a sci fi/comic shop for the last 20 years, I have come across a lot of people over the years who claim to have rare items usually large collections of original carded Star Wars figures supposedly never touched in pristine condition but produce zero evidence they have them. Usually they say they want to sell them and will bring them in to show me. In every instance without fail I've never heard anything again. Its pretty obvious that either they dont have the items at all or at best only have played with loose ones. Quite what they get out of claiming to have these collections I'm not sure, as obviously I'm not going to part with any cash till I've seen them. I think in some naive way they think it impresses me.

I think that's partly where it comes from in these people, it's a need to 'fit in' with society by trying to impress others by pretending to be on the same level or better. Kind of how you get that one neighbour that everyone has heard of keeping up with the Jones', who wants everything his neighbour has or better and just can't take it when the neighbours have something that he doesn't. :lol:

Some people go further than that though and full on put themselves out there and make a 'career' out of it lol, because in their head they wanna be seen as the no.1 top dog who's better than everyone else, they know they can't achieve it but they want it so bad they just fake it and feed people complete ******** even when it sounds like obvious lies to everyone else. Some can take it very far and tbh it's quite dangerous and a bit creepy, iv'e met a couple of people like this over the years.