bit annoyed about the carded luke x-wing thats just gone.

[jedisearcher]

I understand what you are saying but we are all new once. When I first came to the forum it was to buy, plus there are a few silent collectors on here. If I wasn't able to buy because of an inner circle type mentality I would have been off.

It just happened to be the banter that caused me to start posting.

Remember, we don't want to turn in to the other site.

Ps got your message. I will get the mrs to do some detailed pics of the Jawa coo, she has a proper camera and knows how it works, and be in touch soon.

My main concern has always been getting items to the right people who aren't out for a quick buck. I follow ebay pretty closely and I've seen members here snap things up and then put them on ebay the next week. I know this is just business and people also do this to get enough money together for something they really want but it's not something I agree with on a forum like this, just my personal opinion. I also want to point out that it is only a few members over the years that I've seen this buying to sale attitude and I certainly wouldn't want to tar everyone with the same brush as I know most on here

If you've got evidence then that's abit of a poor show for whoever is doing it.

I've just said its a free for all if it's in a FS thread so I can hardly criticise now, but it is shabby and not something I'd ever do.

Chris

 

[Palifan]

Like I said it really hasn't happened much at all (that I'm aware of), but I have seen this and it would be interesting to know how many people have joined, picked up something and then disappeared.

 

[theslider]

It is indeed.

If someone says "interested in X pm sent", then they should be dealt with first. If another member offers more BEFORE a deal is sealed then common courtesy would suggest that renegotiations begin with the first interested party.

It's happened to me twice where I've said I'm interested in X and Y. Then further down the thread you see others saying interested in X, Y and Z and they end up with all of the items. I don't deal with the sellers again.

A bit like when someone says this about a die cast piece:

The majority of it will go fs on here once Ben and I have had a chance to look at it and photograph the lot.

Then proceed to sell it on eBay! I even made an offer which wasn't countered, so you could've saved on fees!

 

[Section 8]

I don't think it's fair to judge anyone who sells on a purchase from the forum. There are many reasons why someone may sell on an item. Unless it's a members sole reason for being a member is to buy and sell on for profit then I have no problem it happening. I've sold on quite a few items myself for numerous reasons e.g. quality, change of focus, impulse buy or was a bargain. Also i wouldn't sell anything if I wasn't happy with the price so any profit made on it fair play and up to the buyer.

 

[Palifan]

The difference for me is this is a forum mainly about vintage collecting. Ebay's good for trawling through to find those bargains that are out there but I never thought that was the purpose of forums like this one. I can see it's a little different if someone that has no real interest in Star Wars and just wants to sell their items on here. That's totally up to them and at least collectors get first bite of the cherry but I don't see that a whole lot here.

It's just my opinion and everyone's entitled to theirs so it's not something that keeps me awake at night. We've all made buying mistakes but it would be nice if they were picked up on a forum that they were offered back there don't you think?

 

[Mr-shifter]

I don't think it's fair to judge anyone who sells on a purchase from the forum. There are many reasons why someone may sell on an item. Unless it's a members sole reason for being a member is to buy and sell on for profit then I have no problem it happening. I've sold on quite a few items myself for numerous reasons e.g. quality, change of focus, impulse buy or was a bargain. Also i wouldn't sell anything if I wasn't happy with the price so any profit made on it fair play and up to the buyer.

Fair enough on some items, but I have purchased a number of items from people on here I now consider friends. I have brought these items for less than market value, as they know I am after them, and they are still turning a profit on them. We both get a good deal. I get a piece at a good price, they get to know it is going to a home where it will be appreciated and to a lot of people that means something. It would be a massive slap in the face if they were kind enough to let me have it at 80% of market to then stick it on ebay to flip.

There was a recent example where Joe O brokered a tri logo jawa at a good price. It was not the first collector who pmed that got it, it was a collector the seller felt comfortable selling it too. This was a nice thing to see. I wouldn't be happy selling an item to someone here I knew had a tendency to flip things at any less than market value. Not that I ever really sell anything.

 

[Palifan]

Fair enough on some items, but I have purchased a number of items from people on here I now consider friends. I have brought these items for less than market value, as they know I am after them, and they are still turning a profit on them. We both get a good deal. I get a piece at a good price, they get to know it is going to a home where it will be appreciated and to a lot of people that means something. It would be a massive slap in the face if they were kind enough to let me have it at 80% of market to then stick it on ebay to flip.

There was a recent example where Joe O brokered a tri logo jawa at a good price. It was not the first collector who pmed that got it, it was a collector the seller felt comfortable selling it too. This was a nice thing to see. I wouldn't be happy selling an item to someone here I knew had a tendency to flip things at any less than market value. Not that I ever really sell anything.[/quote]

This is also my feelings on all of this. I certainly wouldn't want an inner circle here but would like to do a solid for someone who I've got to know over the years. That doesn't mean to say that I wouldn't do the same for a new member but it would take more than a few quick posts for me to feel total happy.

 

[Richard_H]

It is indeed.

If someone says "interested in X pm sent", then they should be dealt with first. If another member offers more BEFORE a deal is sealed then common courtesy would suggest that renegotiations begin with the first interested party.

It's happened to me twice where I've said I'm interested in X and Y. Then further down the thread you see others saying interested in X, Y and Z and they end up with all of the items. I don't deal with the sellers again.

A bit like when someone says this about a die cast piece:

The majority of it will go fs on here once Ben and I have had a chance to look at it and photograph the lot.

Then proceed to sell it on eBay! I even made an offer which wasn't countered, so you could've saved on fees!

But you ignored the bit at the top where it stated no low balls. £1.50 each item was certainly a low ball offer - and I've had many low ball offers from forum members most of which have been ignored. You also made the offer when the ebay auction was ending so I didn't exactly have a lot of time to sort it out. I also stated that I wasn't happy selling them all for £10 + p&p on ebay as I expected them to go for more - £10 was the initial starting price but I was looking for closer to £20. If you were happy offering then you should have done so as I'd prefer to sell to forum members.
I probably would have agreed to sell them for £10 and postage at cost, although there is also another interested party in these pieces, but there was no way as I was going to eat the postage costs.

Or am I wrong in this? Is £1.50 for a used diecast ship, not in good condition, a fair price?

 

[jonesy]

Time to clear this up. I sold the figure to the first person who sent me a pm. I didn't really see Pizzathehutt's offer as he first queries the title of my thread as I'd incorrectly put the details of the wrong figure in the title. So I immediately went to correct the title. By that time I'd had a pm from another forum member with an offer for Luke which I accepted.

I may be new on here but I am certainly not new to the world of collecting and forums.

Was it priced too low? Who knows. I'd been given a rough estimation of it's worth considering its slight sticker residue/damage and fading. I'm happy with the price and that's that.

To me, it just sounds like sour grapes.

 

[Mr-shifter]

Inspired some interesting debate though.

 

[pizzathehutt]

no.

i dont get why when i showed an interest and mentioned the thread title being incorrect, instead of going "well its sold now anyway but thanks" you then adjusted the title, and then i was informed that it had been sold?

there was a thread awhile back on forum etiquette and i was partly in the firing line because i put in a lowball offer to a new member and i held my head in shame but we all make mistakes, these things happen

we could go on and on about this and agree to disagree, im over it now anyway and should really focus on my loose run, i just thought it would be a nice item to have and that price was very fair in my eyes.

 

[_Lee_]

Or am I wrong in this? Is £1.50 for a used diecast ship, not in good condition, a fair price?

That is a bargain,cheap used but still vintage. Did you list them for sale on here?? or just say you were sorting through the lot? If you didnt mention nothing of a sale, it doesnt matter-no one has a god given right to be sold something. I think you done the right thing trying to recoup some of what you spent on the lot itself and Ebay is the best place for that. Unfortunately, low balling will always be tried....

Jonesy, will you say how much the Luke X Wing sold for ?? Just curious.

I think the main thing here is that too many people beleive in collectors ettiquette etc. I think Iain does the right thing in listing all his Ebay stuff, and then stating a 10% discount for a member here who wants it. No one has a god given right to anything, and in many cases you will always generate more interest and recoup more £££ back on Ebay. Its the way it works. Its kind of like that guy who found the case of Meccanno figures a while back. I know if i had found them i would have kept a full set and sold the rest on Ebay-whoever says they wouldnt is having a laugh. I would also have wanted to get maximum exposure and profit. Is it profiteering?? yes, but it also keeps me in good stead financially and helps me to extend my collection. Flipping always has and always will be part of the game...however if i had something i knew someone wanted i would of course help it to land up in their hands.

 

[theslider]

But you ignored the bit at the top where it stated no low balls. £1.50 each item was certainly a low ball offer - and I've had many low ball offers from forum members most of which have been ignored. You also made the offer when the ebay auction was ending so I didn't exactly have a lot of time to sort it out. I also stated that I wasn't happy selling them all for £10 + p&p on ebay as I expected them to go for more - £10 was the initial starting price but I was looking for closer to £20. If you were happy offering then you should have done so as I'd prefer to sell to forum members.
I probably would have agreed to sell them for £10 and postage at cost, although there is also another interested party in these pieces, but there was no way as I was going to eat the postage costs.

Or am I wrong in this? Is £1.50 for a used diecast ship, not in good condition, a fair price?

Yes but you could've countered the offer I made - that's how bartering works! Would have happily paid £20.00 if they'd been listed on the Fourm. But hey ho your loss at the end of the day.

 

[itfciain]

Just to make things clear. I bought this card honestly thinking it was a Palitoy (bloody small pictures on my phone). It is not as good as the Kenner one I had so am going to put it up on eBay. I have messaged Pizza twice offering it to him first at the price I paid but he hasn't had the decency to even reply to me

 

[spoons]

I think this thread is all a case of a misunderstanding and if Ian sells to Pizza then all is well with the world

as to non-answered PMs, they drive me mad but if Rich stated no lowballing then not much to complain about.

 

[Stargeezer]

Iain, are you sure your pm's have been read? you probably are, but thought i ask, just to make sure.

 

[pizzathehutt]

Sorry for not replying Iain, had a lot on.

the price that was eventually put up for before i lost out was £100 delivered

£120 is out of my budget get so i will now pass on this

also ive noticed the original seller is the same one who recently sold the weird looking sideways boba fett is it a toytoni? on ebay for £256 so you may want to check that the luke x-wing is legit.

 

[itfciain]

Sorry for not replying Iain, had a lot on.

the price that was eventually put up for before i lost out was £100 delivered

£120 is out of my budget get so i will now pass on this

also ive noticed the original seller is the same one who recently sold the weird looking sideways boba fett is it a toytoni? on ebay for £256 so you may want to check that the luke x-wing is legit.

No worries mate - it does get a bit annoying when you can see someone has read the message yet chooses not to reply. Anyways it is up on eBay now so will have to see how it goes. The card is legit so there is no issue there