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<blockquote data-quote="Snaketibe" data-source="post: 462750" data-attributes="member: 7379"><p>With all due respect, whilst I certainly agree that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, flight like a bird was very obviously possible because birds do it all the time. The very clear evidence that flight was possible was readily available for all to see, so extrapolating that into a man-made machine also being capable of doing it is not a tremendous leap. Yes it took humans a very long time to work out how to do it, but the evidence that it was possible had always been there. However we see no such evidence at all that the speed of light can be exceeded.</p><p></p><p>Again, with the greatest respect as I have no wish to get into an argument and I absolutely acknowledge your right to believe whatever you wish (and from your posts on this Forum, I do in fact like you <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />), but just because some things that used to be viewed as impossible are now in fact actually quite possible, does not mean that everything currently viewed as being impossible must therefore one day be possible. To believe that is to believe a false syllogism.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I believe in things for which there is ideally proof, or at the very least good evidence. Technically, the intelligent should remain agnostic about things for which the jury is out, but at some point logic and common sense must kick in and inform one's opinion as to the likelihood of something being true. I cannot prove that unicorns don't exist, but that does not mean that they must therefore exist.</p><p></p><p>I see no evidence at all that Einstein was incorrect with his General Theory of Relativity which states that nothing can travel faster than light, quite the contrary; every single piece of evidence, investigation and scientific observation of the universe supports his truly astonishing work, right up to the present day with the latest amazing confirmation that gravitational waves, which Einstein predicted back in 1916 as part of his General Theory of Relativity, are in fact real! E really does equal mc squared!</p><p></p><p>Lastly, as with people who believe in time-travelling visitors to Earth, I have to ask the question of those who believe in extra-terrestrial visitors to Earth the very simple question: where are they? As with ghosts, paranormal activity and other physics-defying claims, where is the evidence? I am very happy to be proved wrong about all these things that I don't believe in if someone can show me good, credible evidence (and the emphasis is on the words 'good' and 'credible') that they exist. A blurred photo of dubious origin of something unclear in the sky is not that. And neither are the highly credible accounts of airplane pilots witnessing flying objects they cannot identify; the accounts are credible and the pilots doubtless saw something they could not identify, but there is no evidence in their accounts at all that those objects are alien in origin. That's a connective leap unjustified and unsupported by the facts. And it is always dangerous to make such leaps without the facts to back them up, as otherwise we tread dangerously close to the territory of religion, were believers don't require evidence to support their beliefs, because they substitute 'faith' in its place. David Icke, apparently, truly believes that the Queen of England is a giant lizard and that he is 'an aspect of the archangel Gabriel'. He has a perfect right to believe that. I however would prefer to see some evidence to support that claim before believing him ;-)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snaketibe, post: 462750, member: 7379"] With all due respect, whilst I certainly agree that any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, flight like a bird was very obviously possible because birds do it all the time. The very clear evidence that flight was possible was readily available for all to see, so extrapolating that into a man-made machine also being capable of doing it is not a tremendous leap. Yes it took humans a very long time to work out how to do it, but the evidence that it was possible had always been there. However we see no such evidence at all that the speed of light can be exceeded. Again, with the greatest respect as I have no wish to get into an argument and I absolutely acknowledge your right to believe whatever you wish (and from your posts on this Forum, I do in fact like you :-)), but just because some things that used to be viewed as impossible are now in fact actually quite possible, does not mean that everything currently viewed as being impossible must therefore one day be possible. To believe that is to believe a false syllogism. Personally, I believe in things for which there is ideally proof, or at the very least good evidence. Technically, the intelligent should remain agnostic about things for which the jury is out, but at some point logic and common sense must kick in and inform one's opinion as to the likelihood of something being true. I cannot prove that unicorns don't exist, but that does not mean that they must therefore exist. I see no evidence at all that Einstein was incorrect with his General Theory of Relativity which states that nothing can travel faster than light, quite the contrary; every single piece of evidence, investigation and scientific observation of the universe supports his truly astonishing work, right up to the present day with the latest amazing confirmation that gravitational waves, which Einstein predicted back in 1916 as part of his General Theory of Relativity, are in fact real! E really does equal mc squared! Lastly, as with people who believe in time-travelling visitors to Earth, I have to ask the question of those who believe in extra-terrestrial visitors to Earth the very simple question: where are they? As with ghosts, paranormal activity and other physics-defying claims, where is the evidence? I am very happy to be proved wrong about all these things that I don't believe in if someone can show me good, credible evidence (and the emphasis is on the words 'good' and 'credible') that they exist. A blurred photo of dubious origin of something unclear in the sky is not that. And neither are the highly credible accounts of airplane pilots witnessing flying objects they cannot identify; the accounts are credible and the pilots doubtless saw something they could not identify, but there is no evidence in their accounts at all that those objects are alien in origin. That's a connective leap unjustified and unsupported by the facts. And it is always dangerous to make such leaps without the facts to back them up, as otherwise we tread dangerously close to the territory of religion, were believers don't require evidence to support their beliefs, because they substitute 'faith' in its place. David Icke, apparently, truly believes that the Queen of England is a giant lizard and that he is 'an aspect of the archangel Gabriel'. He has a perfect right to believe that. I however would prefer to see some evidence to support that claim before believing him ;-) [/QUOTE]
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