They say rarity = Value when it comes to collectables, but this really is not always the case is it?

[Frunkstar]

So a subject I sometimes ponder what with my focus being baggies & some of them being so insanely rare that some are even worlds only known examples, yet they re not really regarded as that desireable or valuble, a RF Fett goes for many thousands & some other things like first shots also go for huge money, when some of them are available is fairly sizeable numbers, I myself have a good few baggies that are 1 or 1 & I regard myself blessed to be the custodian.

Yes I totally get it that a RF fett & glasslite vlix are regarded as more exciting / more desireable, but it's a food for thought subject, I'm sure there are many focus collectors who have their own little niesh in the hobbby & have items that are insanely rare & much loved by the collector, but gain little interest from other collectors regardless of rarity, I'm sure some variant / cardback & other focus area guys get what I am saying here?

Not a subject for all, but dang it's so quiet on here I figured I'd have a bit of a ramble of whats rattling about in the little grey cells & share my ravings / rambling with you.

Here's a couple of examples I have which are to date still the only confirmed examples of the figure/baggie combination -

Palitoy-m death star droid, with the font still nice & blue rather than the purple it can degarde to

& this Palitoy-l Luke, again still nice & blue rather than degraded.

Both the above actually came to me in my very first find of baggies direct from one of the last 15 workers still there at the palitou plant in Coalvile right at the end of the era.

 

[Frunkstar]

Another prime example for me has always been the woolies 99p 8 packs, as far as I am aware my own 2 are still to this day the only 2 confirmed authentic ones that are still sealed that have ever been traced, I've had a couple of collectors tll me they own one (or more) sealed exampls, but never actually seen any evidence of it to confirm.

I actually got these through this forum many many ears ago & even then all the members were screaming these are fake, due to the rarity, but I made the long old road trip to check them out in hand & they are 100% authentic as were the host of other crazy items the guy had which he found when clearing out his grandmothers house after she passed away, a huge treasure trove of toys in a double wardrobe filled to the brim with toys pcked up at discount retailers, she never did get round to giving to the grandchildern, there were all kinds of toys lines not just SW, but it included 3 Irish 3 packs & an insanely rare meccano 3 figure baggie.

So in a nutshell - fairly desireable item, 50 times as rare as an RF fett but I doubt anyone would be shelling thousands on one if one ever came up for sale, just seems quite crazy to me.

 

[Frunkstar]

& then staying on the theme - sorry but you know I only focus on one area of collecting so it is what it is, what about this item - how many of these do you see ?? most folks don't even know they exist & I'm speaking for long time seasoned collectors, the super group tear off strips -

I'm hoping this thread raise some interest & maybe a bit of discussion regarding some of the rare & obscure items you guys have in your collections, be it insanely rare cardbacks to little known about obscurities be it erasers pencil toppers or just something none of us have ever seen nor heard of - lets roll out all those quirky obscurities guys.

 

[Cazza]

Fantastic items, Frank and great idea for a thread. Never knew those SuperGroup Emperors existed- SuperCool!

I guess with baggies, the appearance means they are less desirable. Much harder to display effectively than MOCs, loose figures etc. They're great, though and being more niche makes them very cool in my book!

Don't think I have anything to share, although I guess my Boba MOC with Smuggler blaster error is pretty rare.

 

[Michael Sith]

Great thread idea Frank

The woolies pack is awesome, absolute belter….the supergroup tear of strip is like a Time Machine ..can see that hanging at the till of a shop back in the day
Baggies are something that may be niche, but when you get the bug, you def get the bug, as they are again little time capsules, in a similar vein to a fully sealed Moc, but a whole different world, I love em.

Fully agree on worth and value, it's all about what you want to collect as opposed to what is out there in collections.
Sadly I don't have any high end stuff but love what I do have, the 4pack MP and the on going 15 pack MP are gems to me and again thanks Frank for thinking of me when they came to your attention.

Look forward to seeing this thread grow

 

[lejackal]

I had a 1 of 1 pre prod before and that was effectively worthless. Everything needs a market to have value. Bloody love seeing these though mate, not to mention you posting again!

 

[Mini99]

I had a 1 of 1 pre prod before and that was effectively worthless. Everything needs a market to have value. Bloody love seeing these though mate, not to mention you posting again!

I too had the very same Pre Production item that was next to impossible to give away…couldn't quite believe it to this day!

Funkstar, I've never seen those Emperor strips before, where were they sold? Market stalls? Where other characters available on strips like that?
Very interesting.

I remember seeing those Wollies packs in big bins full to the top, surely there must be loads out there?

I have nothing of the rarity that you have vintage wise so am unfortunately unable to add anything to this thread.

 

[Beeper383]

On the same theme I have a couple of Jedi 2 packs. Seemingly rarer than most Jedi MOCs, but, not as desirable presumably as they don't come with weapons, no character(s) image on front of card and plain cardboard to back of card. The latter two points making them less displayable for collectors.

 

[Beeper383]

I also have storybooks with accompanying cassettes. I would assume these are reasonably rare. And, I would also assume that they were of relatively low value. However, others may have more info on their rarity - please do wade in and correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[Mini99]

I also have storybooks with accompanying cassettes. I would assume these are reasonably rare. And, I would also assume that they were of relatively low value. However, others may have more info on their rarity - please do wade in and correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm afraid that these crop up for sale, often mint as old shop stock very regularly on FB.

 

[Beeper383]

Thanks. I'm not on FB so appreciate those wider insights.

 

[StarWarsFan]

Have my unused stick set something you don't see very often love the art work

 

[Matthieu]

Great topic Frank. I do not think that rarity equals value when it comes to collectables. A desirable item is a valuable item, a piece that collectors are willing to add to their collection regardless of its rarity and for various reasons: current hype, completing a set, profit expectations / investment... Many examples come to mind of SW items that regularly and constantly sell for higher prices than others, while being readily available: Boba Fett and its variants, vinyl cape Jawa, Blue Snag, Yak Face... You can find any of those so-called "rarer" figures any day of the week if you have an Internet connection!
That applies not only to Star Wars collecting but also to any other collecting fields, including art! A Picasso painting or drawing is not rare at all, the artist produced literally hundreds of thousands of pieces, but art collectors want one in their collection and are prepared to pay the price

 

[Pomse2001]

Great thread Frank, I am sure I have a lot of items that are rare and some of the items in my collection I have only seen one time or a few times before but the value are not as high as vlix because I guess there are not many collectors for the items that I have that are rare in my eyes.

About my danish price sticker focus on star wars cardbacks, moc and boxes. If I find a moc with a danish price sticker then it is ******* rare, I do not know about many that exist, some cardbacks with a danish price sticker can also be very rare, I have not completed a full run yet even after 25 years. The same with danish star wars fan club magazines, I have never seen any for sale from one of the 2 danish star wars fan clubs in the 80s I have a few that I got for free from a friend, but again after 25 years I do not have a full run of them.

 

[Frunkstar]

Fantastic items, Frank and great idea for a thread. Never knew those SuperGroup Emperors existed- SuperCool!

I guess with baggies, the appearance means they are less desirable. Much harder to display effectively than MOCs, loose figures etc. They're great, though and being more niche makes them very cool in my book!

Don't think I have anything to share, although I guess my Boba MOC with Smuggler blaster error is pretty rare.

Get that weapons erro MOC up, I do love error items, I actually have a fair few error baggies, something I actively hunt, been a long while since I found one though, I get the display aspect with baggies, it's why I spent a great deal of time working on a new case design with UKG for baggies, as I wanted them to be better protected as well as display nicely I.E standing straight in the cases & with the full baggie shown, rather than lop sided & folded over, I'm actually fairly happy with how they display in the cases all lined un, but I totally agree that trying to display loose baggies is problematic at best.

Here's an example of how mine display Cazzar

 

[Frunkstar]

Great thread idea Frank

The woolies pack is awesome, absolute belter….the supergroup tear of strip is like a Time Machine ..can see that hanging at the till of a shop back in the day
Baggies are something that may be niche, but when you get the bug, you def get the bug, as they are again little time capsules, in a similar vein to a fully sealed Moc, but a whole different world, I love em.

Fully agree on worth and value, it's all about what you want to collect as opposed to what is out there in collections.
Sadly I don't have any high end stuff but love what I do have, the 4pack MP and the on going 15 pack MP are gems to me and again thanks Frank for thinking of me when they came to your attention.

Look forward to seeing this thread grow

Yes it's an odd one, but if you get bitten by the bug you just don't want to collect anything else really, very strnge init Mike, those packs of yours are super cool & you've done a stand up job putting them right mate

 

[Frunkstar]

I had a 1 of 1 pre prod before and that was effectively worthless. Everything needs a market to have value. Bloody love seeing these though mate, not to mention you posting again!

I am guilty of not posting as much as I should Carl, but making an effort as best I can, I would love to see the place thriving again, so come on you 2, whats this PP item nobody wants??

 

[Frunkstar]

On the same theme I have a couple of Jedi 2 packs. Seemingly rarer than most Jedi MOCs, but, not as desirable presumably as they don't come with weapons, no character(s) image on front of card and plain cardboard to back of card. The latter two points making them less displayable for collectors.

Some of those jedi 2 packs are super rare, some I think maybe only known examples combinaton dependant obviously, much like baggies their simplicity makes them special, I don't think I could have a wall of them, but I would love to add one to my collection at some point, ideally with a luke FB or Emperor in, not even sure if either of those figures were found on them??

 

[Frunkstar]

Have my unused stick set something you don't see very often love the art work

Those are damn cool SWfan, you don't see a full display of them like that often, thank you so much for sharing

 

[Frunkstar]

Great topic Frank. I do not think that rarity equals value when it comes to collectables. A desirable item is a valuable item, a piece that collectors are willing to add to their collection regardless of its rarity and for various reasons: current, hype, completing a set, profit expectations / investment... Many examples come to mind of SW items that regularly and constantly sell for higher prices than others, while being readily available: Boba Fett and its variants, vinyl cape Jawa, Blue Snag, Yak Face... You can find any of those so-called "rarer" figures any day of the week if you have an Internet connection!
That applies not only to Star Wars collecting but also to any other collecting fields, including art! A Picasso painting or drawing is not rare at all, the artist produced literally hundreds of thousands of pieces, but art collectors want one in their collection and are prepared to pay the price

Some excellent & thought provoking thoughts there Matthieu, I agree with you totally on the mad dash for fett/VCJ/Blue snag etc, not are what you'd really call rare, yet folks are happy to throw big bucks at them, the R2 pop up is a prime example over the last few years those have joined the ranks of stupidly priced common items IMO

 

[Frunkstar]

Great thread Frank, I am sure I have a lot of items that are rare and some of the items in my collection I have only seen one time or a few times before but the value are not as high as vlix because I guess there are not many collectors for the items that I have that are rare in my eyes.

About my danish price sticker focus on star wars cardbacks, moc and boxes. If I find a moc with a danish price sticker then it is ******* rare, I do not know about many that exist, some cardbacks with a danish price sticker can also be very rare, I have not completed a full run yet even after 25 years. The same with danish star wars fan club magazines, I have never seen any for sale from one of the 2 danish star wars fan clubs in the 80s I have a few that I got for free from a friend, but again after 25 years I do not have a full run of them.

Get some of those super rare Danish price sticker items added for us to appreciate Lars, some cardback are very rare know, with MOC examples of some never having been found, only cards.

 

[StarWarsFan]

Those are damn cool SWfan, you don't see a full display of them like that often, thank you so much for sharing

No problem mate

 

[Beeper383]

Some of those jedi 2 packs are super rare, some I think maybe only known examples combinaton dependant obviously, much like baggies their simplicity makes them special, I don't think I could have a wall of them, but I would love to add one to my collection at some point, ideally with a luke FB or Emperor in, not even sure if either of those figures were found on them??

I'm afraid mine don't contain those figures. I have a Madine/Han Endor and a Madine/A Ackbar

 

[Pomse2001]

I'm afraid mine don't contain those figures. I have a Nadine/Han Endor and a Nadine/A Ackbar

Who is Nadine ?

 

[Pomse2001]

Get some of those super rare Danish price sticker items added for us to appreciate Lars, some cardback are very rare know, with MOC examples of some never having been found, only cards.

Hi Frank, sure I will take pictures as soon as I have the time for it.

I can so far say, I have not seen or found C-3PO or R2-D2 cardbacks with a danish price sticker and I do not know of any examples that other collectors have. But I saw a few of them when I was a kid in a toy store in the 80s so they were sold in denmark but I guess not many, I do not even remember I have found any of the figures in a danish childhood lot yet. It was more R2-D2 sensorscope and popup lighsaber and c3po with net and removeable legs that was sold in denmark.

I also miss an Amanaman, R2-D2 popup lightsaber, A-Wing Pilot, EV-9D9, Han Solo Carbonite and Lumat cardback with a danish price sticker. But I have seen one or a few examples of them in other collections. But so far I have not been to get them for my own collection for 25 years now

 

[Beeper383]

Who is Nadine ?

Love to tell you that was predictive text! But, full transparency, just appalling spelling!!

 

[Pomse2001]

Love to tell you that was predictive text! But, full transparency, just appalling spelling!!

Just joking, that can happen, I am spelling wrong a lot

 

[Pomse2001]

In 2014 I was lucky to find this 6 cardbacks all with danish price stickers and all 6 are SW cardback. Later I traded one of the jawa and tusken raider cardbacks for some other cardbacks. But I still have 4 of the cardbacks and for 25 years now I have never seen any other SW cardbacks with danish price stickers. So I guess they are very rare in denmark. Before 2014 I was 99% sure that SW moc was not sold in denmark in the 70s or 80s. For a dane like me collecting vintage star wars stuff with danish price stickers this are for sure for me the holy grail

 

[Cazza]

Love those cardbacks, Lars. Palitoy + Danish price stickers = mega cool!

 

[Frunkstar]

In 2014 I was lucky to find this 6 cardbacks all with danish price stickers and all 6 are SW cardback. Later I traded one of the jawa and tusken raider cardbacks for some other cardbacks. But I still have 4 of the cardbacks and for 25 years now I have never seen any other SW cardbacks with danish price stickers. So I guess they are very rare in denmark. Before 2014 I was 99% sure that SW moc was not sold in denmark in the 70s or 80s. For a dane like me collecting vintage star wars stuff with danish price stickers this are for sure for me the holy grail

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It's Crazy to think Denmark had hardly any SW era stock & finding any SW era cards with the Danish stickers on is so rare, also mad that R2 & C3p0 are such a difficult find with them both being main characters, thank's for sharing those with us, I think we car regard those as rarities indeed.

If you ever find another vader one I know a vader forus nut who I am sure would love to add one, great guy to & I know he posts on here on ocasion (Pat)