What's the general feel around re-seal's?

[jackabina]

What do you guy's feel about this?
If a card is going into your collection and not meant to be sold on, is having them seen as ok?
I think, as long as it's not passed off as an original and stays in your own display, it's ok.

Thought's please

 

[_Lee_]

Hey fella,

You should collect what you want to.I see nothing wrong with reseals myself.Some people dont have huge financial means (not saying you dont tho)and if this makes someone happy,then go for it.

I have a few reseals and am not ashamed to admit it.As long as they aint passed on as sealed,then i think they have almost the same appeal as a sealed figure.Personally i would not spend more than 100 quid on a moc figure nowadys anyway.

At the end of the day **** what other people think and do what makes you happy.

 

[sith-smith]

This is reasonably well known story, but I had a resealed Palitoy 12 back Jawa in my collection for about 6 years. It was even on display at CE.

I had it because I couldn't get a sealed one that would fit into my collection of 12 backs. This one was unpunched, same as the other 11 12 backs. When I eventually got a sealed on I sold it on. Fully disclosing that it had been resealled.

My point is, reseals have their place in the hobby, I know some people go crazy over them, but I think they do. If you can't find or afford the piece you want but still want that type of display then they can serve that purpose adequately. The only issue comes with the reselling, but that's down to the individual and their conscience.

I personally do not think that a reseal is anywhere near as good as having the real thing but it's not really for one person to say what is and isn't acceptable in the collection of another who is the one paying the money

 

[jackabina]

I dont have any personally. I was just looking through ebay at how much cheaper they were and wondered why/if it was seen as a no no. I appreciate there are sellers out there who try and scam, but like you, in a personal collection I think they're ok.
I think I would consider buying them as long as the card was genuine.

 

[Stormtrooper37]

Of course most collectors want a MOC to be as mint and untouched as the day it was made, however with some figure/cardback combinations very few exist and the next best thing is a re-seal or an opened bubble on a card.

I have no problem with re-seals or opened bubbles - providing they are 100% original. Sometimes it is the only way to get an otherwise very expensive figure/cardback without re-mortgaging your house. Certain Palitoys, Meccano's, Lil Ledy's immediately spring to mind.

If and when you sell them on, then any honest seller will state it is a re-seal and if they don't you can normally tell from the picture - although there are some expertly done reseals out there.

I have no love for repro cardbacks/bubbles , would take a beat up cardback with a bashed in bubble reseal/opened every time over a repro.

 

[shawn_k]

I recently faced this dilemma myself when a difficult to find Palitoy arrived with the bubble popped cleanly off. I've never really been a fan of reseals, but I will say that I considered it, but if I did, I was going to mark the card with a small "resealed" stamp. However, for now, I went with cutting a spot in a toploader for the bubble to hold it in place. It displays like a MOC, but is completely reversible with no damage/modification to any of the original parts.

I've got a few pics here.

 

[jackabina]

Interesting stuff Shawn .

 

[poncho]

I have no love for repro cardbacks/bubbles , would take a beat up cardback with a bashed in bubble reseal/opened every time over a repro.

i hear you brother lol, i ****ing hate repro cardbacks with bubbles! especially on ebay! i personally im not keen on re-seals id rather have a original cracked bubble or loose bubble and cardback if im after a certian figure and one popped up for sale.

 

[Joe]

I wouldn't reseal anything myself unless I was going to try something reversible like Shawn just did with his Palitoy LJ. I think if you can make it displayable but not actually interfere with it then the job is well and truly done. It also makes it impossible to be passed on (in the event of you snuffing it) as a real one as once the toploader (plastic sheet/whatever you use) is taken away as it would just fall to bits yet still leave everything intact.

No nasty glue or tape either - win win!

Oh..and as for me being against reseals or not..well I would try not to buy one but there is always the possibility of being faced with the option of owning a rare reseal or not owning one at all. Sometimes it is ok to make do with reseals in the hope that one day a factory sealed one may turn up.

 

[mr_palitoy]

Reseals are great when you are collecting rare cardbacks and MOCs. Have bought a few reseals and opened them for their cardbacks. My tri logo Jawa and Madine cardbacks were originally reseals. Have also made a few reseals myself where it is next to impossible to get a MOC. I have a resealed Palitoy 45a 2-1b to complete my Palitoy run for that figure which was a straight forward reseal with the original bubble and figure. Have also made a couple using just cardbacks and the correct bubbles for the 2-1b square card meccano and also a clipper cardback. Have also resealed a palitoy 12 back vinyl cape jawa and a palitoy 30b ben kenobi from their original components. They all display great and it is good to have them in my collection rather than not having anything. Would only sell them as reseals to someone I thought was not going to try and flip them as MOC. Though none of them would pass as original MOC up close, they may pass in a photo. Have sold cardbacks in the past to someone who made reseals and then tried to sell them on as original MOC. Not fond.



Jason

 

[tiefighterboy]

Original cardback....original bubble......someone else's seal..................no problem.

 

[BlueDog]

I personally think there is something a little odd about people who collect re-seals. :lol:

 

[BlueDog]

In all seriousness I agree with Jason, I've often thought about how I would sell mine if the time ever came to do so and I decided I would only sell to people I knew wouldn't be the type to try to sell as sealed. Namely fellow forum members who I know wouldn't do it.

I also hate seeing Reproduction carded figures being referred to as re-seals, I believe re-card is their appropriate description.

As Todd said vintage card+ vintage bubble+ vintage weapon+ vintage figure, still = vintage goodness. It's just goodness in bits is all.

 

[jackabina]

Thankyou gentleman. You've pretty much confirmed what I was thinking

 

[2stripes]

I plan to complete my run of figures up to ROTJ, then collect the remaining 15, snag, cantina band monsters, maybe a VCJ and some Bootlegs etc as loose graded items and then my work is done, or that was always the plan.

After that though I think I will still want to probably collect but will look for a cheaper alternative to high end MOC's and I quite fancy foreign cardbacks but would be more than happy with reseals. I do drool at some of the foreign cardbacks I see on here, I love the look and contrast to what I collect. I think the reseal option will be fine and give me a means to keep my eye in. I'm actually quite looking forward to trawling for Harberts and Meccano 12 back reseals, they would be awesome items to own and all original but the glue. Think how some antique paintings are touched up and repaired, you wouldn't turn your nose up at a Picasso just because someone had repaired a little superficial damage would you!

That said thats all still some way off! As most have said though who cares what anyone else thinks? I've never seen anyone criticise someone's collection on this or any other forum tbh, most collectors seem to mutually encourage and get the notion that not everyone has the same financial clout. To be honest anyone who did turn their nose up at someone's collection publicly would be a complete prick in my view.

 

[lee gray]

I dont think theres anything wrong with reseals, if people like them thats cool or buys them as next best thing as cant afford a sealed one.

I personally though wouldnt get any.

 

[Dark Sith Lord]

There is a great Palitoy Reseal Focus over on TIG http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t4978-palitoy-reseal-focus

 

[Pomse2001]

Reseal is fine with me as long as they do not sell them.

 

[palitoyjunky]

As already said, a reseal is fine as long as it is not passed off as an original! I personally have more respect for a reseal ie original card and bubble rather than a recard ie repro card and bubble although there are some really cool custom jobs out there!! 8)
Some collectors of rare MOCs may never come across that special piece they are looking for so may go for a reseal for display purposes etc.

I personally would never own a reseal(to my knowledge :lol: )because the real thing means so much to me in terms of a real piece of history but as also said that can come at a hefty price :?