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<blockquote data-quote="peekaygee73" data-source="post: 555535" data-attributes="member: 6023"><p>On LOTR... I read the trilogy as a kid, read The Hobbit in later life and also found The Silmarillion impenetrable. I could never be bothered with any of the films so still haven't seen them and the thought of the TV series doesn't excite me either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, I know these kind of discussions can escalate quickly but here goes...</p><p></p><p>More generally, it's inevitable that films/TVs represent the time they are made, so a 2020s film will have more ethnic diversity than a 1970s film. You can guarantee that if all Imperials in the new films were white then there'd be a section of society raising hell about white people being demonised. Weirdly, you never read of these people complaining about the representation of Jesus (for example) as a white man when he wouldn't have been.</p><p></p><p>There's so much contrary and misinformation around Black Lives Matter it's almost impossible to have a discussion about it, and as a white middle-aged man I'm one of the worst qualified people to discuss it anyway. What I do is listen to those whose lives have been affected by the colour of their skin. I've spent a lot of time in the US deep south and I can completely understand the need for some kind of reform. In the US I was astonished about how some of my white colleagues were openly talking to their black counterparts, and this was only 10-15 years ago. It's also worth reading up on the impact British colonisation (as an example - other colonisations are available) has on those countries today. The journalist Laura Trevelyan did a great piece about her family's slave owning past in Grenada, and the challenges Grenadians still face today as a result of colonisation.</p><p></p><p>It's <u>not</u> true that films can't win an Oscar if there are no black people in them, but there are rules around representation of 'under-represented identity groups' that a film needs to meet in order to be nominated/win. So to your point that would include asian and native americans too. The rules are explained <a href="https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/9/9/21429083/oscars-best-picture-rules-diversity-inclusion" target="_blank">here </a>and I'm not going to pretend they're particularly easy to follow... BUT they're so wide-ranging as to make it almost impossible for a film not to qualify. The talent is out there, so it's not a case of employing people who don't have the skills to meet a quota, it's about creating equity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="peekaygee73, post: 555535, member: 6023"] On LOTR... I read the trilogy as a kid, read The Hobbit in later life and also found The Silmarillion impenetrable. I could never be bothered with any of the films so still haven't seen them and the thought of the TV series doesn't excite me either. OK, I know these kind of discussions can escalate quickly but here goes... More generally, it's inevitable that films/TVs represent the time they are made, so a 2020s film will have more ethnic diversity than a 1970s film. You can guarantee that if all Imperials in the new films were white then there'd be a section of society raising hell about white people being demonised. Weirdly, you never read of these people complaining about the representation of Jesus (for example) as a white man when he wouldn't have been. There's so much contrary and misinformation around Black Lives Matter it's almost impossible to have a discussion about it, and as a white middle-aged man I'm one of the worst qualified people to discuss it anyway. What I do is listen to those whose lives have been affected by the colour of their skin. I've spent a lot of time in the US deep south and I can completely understand the need for some kind of reform. In the US I was astonished about how some of my white colleagues were openly talking to their black counterparts, and this was only 10-15 years ago. It's also worth reading up on the impact British colonisation (as an example - other colonisations are available) has on those countries today. The journalist Laura Trevelyan did a great piece about her family's slave owning past in Grenada, and the challenges Grenadians still face today as a result of colonisation. It's [U]not[/U] true that films can't win an Oscar if there are no black people in them, but there are rules around representation of 'under-represented identity groups' that a film needs to meet in order to be nominated/win. So to your point that would include asian and native americans too. The rules are explained [URL='https://www.vox.com/culture/2020/9/9/21429083/oscars-best-picture-rules-diversity-inclusion']here [/URL]and I'm not going to pretend they're particularly easy to follow... BUT they're so wide-ranging as to make it almost impossible for a film not to qualify. The talent is out there, so it's not a case of employing people who don't have the skills to meet a quota, it's about creating equity. [/QUOTE]
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