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<blockquote data-quote="peekaygee73" data-source="post: 523058" data-attributes="member: 6023"><p>Just back from my first viewing today. I somehow managed to avoid almost all spoilers (just heard about the same-sex kiss, which I was convinced was going to be Poe & Finn. I almost pissed myself laughing when I saw what some people were getting so worked up about), so I've also only read through this post today.</p><p></p><p>On the plus side, I really enjoyed it whilst watching it - it moved at a cracking pace. They've FINALLY twigged that the one of the main plus points of the OT is the camaraderie & interaction between the main characters. (It was only when watching TFA & TLJ the other day that I realised Poe and Rey didn't even meet till the end of TLJ - WTF were they thinking?!). The main actors look like they're enjoying themselves, and it's interesting to read that improvisation was allowed for the first time in the ST films, so I wonder how much of that interplay was improvised. I enjoyed most of the nods to the previous films, and they did the best they could to include Leia. I had something in my eye quite a few times during the second half of the film.</p><p></p><p>The negatives... Yet another rehash of 'The Best of Star Wars'; trying to rewrite/blot out TLJ, particularly Rey's background - it's clear that TLJ is saying <em>anyone</em> can be force-sensitive and is setting Rey up to be 'nobody'; seeming to kill off almost all the main characters; First Order troopers of all types are now worse than useless; the nods to the previous films (yeah, I know I put that in as a plus too, but it's clearly trying to get the fans onside again). It felt like there was too much it was trying to do.</p><p></p><p>Overall I wish the people creating the films hadn't pandered to what they think the fans want, and just created a trilogy that went its own way whilst being respectful to the PT/OT. I wish Disney had gone into the ST with a plan and stuck to it - to say how much they paid for Star Wars they've done a **** job of looking after it, and it's pretty clear the Disney execs don't understand Star Wars at all. At the moment Disney seem fresh out of ideas across the board... but then that seems to be a problem with Hollywood generally at the moment. Whilst I enjoyed TLJ I understand why some hated it, but at least it had the balls to be the first different Star Wars film since ESB. I just wish the ST films had been more middle ground than the extremes they are.</p><p></p><p>I watched TFA and TLJ earlier this week, and enjoyed them both too. It'll be interesting to see how (or more importantly <em>if</em>) the films stand up as a trilogy once the dust has settled and I can view them more objectively. After all, ESB wasn't particularly well received by critics and fans alike when it first came out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="peekaygee73, post: 523058, member: 6023"] Just back from my first viewing today. I somehow managed to avoid almost all spoilers (just heard about the same-sex kiss, which I was convinced was going to be Poe & Finn. I almost pissed myself laughing when I saw what some people were getting so worked up about), so I've also only read through this post today. On the plus side, I really enjoyed it whilst watching it - it moved at a cracking pace. They've FINALLY twigged that the one of the main plus points of the OT is the camaraderie & interaction between the main characters. (It was only when watching TFA & TLJ the other day that I realised Poe and Rey didn't even meet till the end of TLJ - WTF were they thinking?!). The main actors look like they're enjoying themselves, and it's interesting to read that improvisation was allowed for the first time in the ST films, so I wonder how much of that interplay was improvised. I enjoyed most of the nods to the previous films, and they did the best they could to include Leia. I had something in my eye quite a few times during the second half of the film. The negatives... Yet another rehash of 'The Best of Star Wars'; trying to rewrite/blot out TLJ, particularly Rey's background - it's clear that TLJ is saying [i]anyone[/i] can be force-sensitive and is setting Rey up to be 'nobody'; seeming to kill off almost all the main characters; First Order troopers of all types are now worse than useless; the nods to the previous films (yeah, I know I put that in as a plus too, but it's clearly trying to get the fans onside again). It felt like there was too much it was trying to do. Overall I wish the people creating the films hadn't pandered to what they think the fans want, and just created a trilogy that went its own way whilst being respectful to the PT/OT. I wish Disney had gone into the ST with a plan and stuck to it - to say how much they paid for Star Wars they've done a **** job of looking after it, and it's pretty clear the Disney execs don't understand Star Wars at all. At the moment Disney seem fresh out of ideas across the board... but then that seems to be a problem with Hollywood generally at the moment. Whilst I enjoyed TLJ I understand why some hated it, but at least it had the balls to be the first different Star Wars film since ESB. I just wish the ST films had been more middle ground than the extremes they are. I watched TFA and TLJ earlier this week, and enjoyed them both too. It'll be interesting to see how (or more importantly [i]if[/i]) the films stand up as a trilogy once the dust has settled and I can view them more objectively. After all, ESB wasn't particularly well received by critics and fans alike when it first came out. [/QUOTE]
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