ROTJ Palitoy MOC bubble types and preferences

[olisuds]

Hi folks. I'm looking for some information on the different types of bubbles found on ROTJ Palitoy MOCs. What are the different types? What are your preferences collecting wise and which if any are more prone to yellowing?

Cheers Oli

 

[spoons]

I know Klaatu is always yellow

an interesting question Oli, I think the standard narrow tri-logo bubble is my favourite and doesn't yellow but I've not seen a Han Hoth with one (apart from as a tri-logo)

Never seen any problem with yellow bubbles on Han Hoth standard bubbles, and although I like the double footer it does seem a little too snug

Here's my examples

45C with a 'PBP' fig and a big ?Tri-logo style bubble

this one is the same but does have a yellow bubble - and a clipper catalogue on the back

65D with a double stem - and too snug

I'll look out for more examples

 

[mr_palitoy]

I have added info on bubble types to my cardback guide.

These are the relevant pages you are looking for:-

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj45ccardback.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj65acardback.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj65dcardback.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotjtl70acardback.htm



cheers Jason

 

[Lee77]

I think that the twin stem bubbles are cool but a lot of them seem to be really fragile on the bottom of each stem. I had one where it cracked in the post. I don't know if its something to do with how they've been stored though as I've had a few off ToyToni and they're always solid.
I do like the tri style bubbles but the problem is that a lot of them are dinged or fragile.
A few of the Jedi only released seem to yellow more. Ree Yees, Klaatu and Bib. Maybe the bubbles were slightly poorer quality by then.

 

[spoons]

I have added info on bubble types to my cardback guide.

These are the relevant pages you are looking for:-

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj45ccardback.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj65acardback.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj65dcardback.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotjtl70acardback.htm



cheers Jason

Great stuff Jason 8)

 

[mr_palitoy]

I have added info on bubble types to my cardback guide.

These are the relevant pages you are looking for:-

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj45ccardback.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj65acardback.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotj65dcardback.htm

http://www.freewebs.com/mrpalitoy/rotjtl70acardback.htm



cheers Jason

Great stuff Jason 8)

Cheers, I see you have the large tri logo style bubble on a 45C Han Solo Hoth. I have that appearing on 65A later. Are you sure that's no a 65D you're showing here?

Jason

 

[spoons]

Great stuff Jason 8)

Cheers, I see you have the large tri logo style bubble on a 45C Han Solo Hoth. I have that appearing on 65A later. Are you sure that's no a 65D you're showing here?

Jason

Both definitely 45s but they are the ones with PBP pale face Hans and the yellow bubbled one does have a Clipper catalogue too. So although Palitoy cards they were carded on the continent - might explain the early backs

 

[mr_palitoy]

Great stuff Jason 8)

Cheers, I see you have the large tri logo style bubble on a 45C Han Solo Hoth. I have that appearing on 65A later. Are you sure that's no a 65D you're showing here?

Jason

Both definitely 45s but they are the ones with PBP pale face Hans and the yellow bubbled one does have a Clipper catalogue too. So although Palitoy cards they were carded on the continent - might explain the early backs

Interesting, I think that has to go up on the guide. Do you have any other 45c's with none PBP figures and a regular rectangular style bubble on them? Would like to put pics of both of them on the guide.

cheers Jason

 

[spoons]

Interesting, I think that has to go up on the guide. Do you have any other 45c's with none PBP figures and a regular rectangular style bubble on them? Would like to put pics of both of them on the guide.

cheers Jason

I'm fairly sure non-PBP cards exist but I'm not certain - I've seen 65 backs with PBP figs and without and always assumed that the 45s were the same. If they do exist they are very rare.

It's one of my pet hates to see a 45C advertised as a miscard with a PBP 'stormtrooper' blaster when they appear to all be packaged this way

 

[olisuds]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help on this. Jason great guide and I love the info you have added on bubbles. I really dont know much about the different types as it's not something I had ever thought about until now.

I've just started to become a lot more particular about the bubbles. So here are some of my many questions .....

Large bubbles - are these tri logo bubbles? They seem a bit too large and the figure can move around too much.

Are the long bubbles also Tri Logo bubbles? Once again i ifnd the figures rattle about too much. Although i really like the ones that have a smaller upper bubble for Lando and Boushh helmets that Jason has pictures on his site.

Twin stem and double stem bubbles - They seem a bit too fragile and seem more prone to yellowing.

Medium sized bubbles without the stems seem a better size. What would you call these? I really like the way they look and they dont seem to yellow much.

I've seen people refer to US/Kenner bubbles, Palitoy bubbles and Tri Logo bubbles - how do i identify which is which?

So many bubble questions

 

[mr_palitoy]

Interesting, I think that has to go up on the guide. Do you have any other 45c's with none PBP figures and a regular rectangular style bubble on them? Would like to put pics of both of them on the guide.

cheers Jason

I'm fairly sure non-PBP cards exist but I'm not certain - I've seen 65 backs with PBP figs and without and always assumed that the 45s were the same. If they do exist they are very rare.

It's one of my pet hates to see a 45C advertised as a miscard with a PBP 'stormtrooper' blaster when they appear to all be packaged this way

Ok, will go with adding the picture of your PBP 45c to the 45c page is that's okay?

cheers Jason

 

[mr_palitoy]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help on this. Jason great guide and I love the info you have added on bubbles. I really dont know much about the different types as it's not something I had ever thought about until now.

I've just started to become a lot more particular about the bubbles. So here are some of my many questions .....

Large bubbles - are these tri logo bubbles? They seem a bit too large and the figure can move around too much.

Are the long bubbles also Tri Logo bubbles? Once again i ifnd the figures rattle about too much. Although i really like the ones that have a smaller upper bubble for Lando and Boushh helmets that Jason has pictures on his site.

Twin stem and double stem bubbles - They seem a bit too fragile and seem more prone to yellowing.

Medium sized bubbles without the stems seem a better size. What would you call these? I really like the way they look and they dont seem to yellow much.

I've seen people refer to US/Kenner bubbles, Palitoy bubbles and Tri Logo bubbles - how do i identify which is which?

So many bubble questions

The very large rectangular bubbles with rounded edges are what I call Tri-Logo style bubbles. They first appeared on 65A (and 45C in some cases by the looks of it).

The long bubbles with single stem were first used on 12 backs an onwards on Palitoy cards.

The rectangular bubbles with the square corners that appear on 45C are what I would call Palitoy bubbles as this bubble type was only used by Palitoy as far as I'm aware.

On the 45c page is a Luke Farmboy with a single stem Kenner style bubble. This is very rare to see on a Palitoy card and was probably overstock or spares used when they ran out of regular bubbles in the Palitoy factory.

Hope that helps!

Jason

 

[spoons]

Ok, will go with adding the picture of your PBP 45c to the 45c page is that's okay?

cheers Jason

no problem Jason

 

[mr_palitoy]

Ok, will go with adding the picture of your PBP 45c to the 45c page is that's okay?

cheers Jason

no problem Jason

Have updated the 45c page and credited you on the home page.

cheers Jason

 

[spoons]

Ok, will go with adding the picture of your PBP 45c to the 45c page is that's okay?

cheers Jason

no problem Jason

Have updated the 45c page and credited you on the home page.

cheers Jason

an honour

 

[spoons]

although you might want to add that there is dispute regarding the origins of the pale face figures. Some say they are a European thing rather than just Spain, and they are not PBP - I disagree

 

[mr_palitoy]

although you might want to add that there is dispute regarding the origins of the pale face figures. Some say they are a European thing rather than just Spain, and they are not PBP - I disagree

I am used to a bit of controversy on the palitoy web site. I have a confirmed pakitoy 12 back vinyl cape jawa on there after all.

:wink:

Jason

 

[spoons]

although you might want to add that there is dispute regarding the origins of the pale face figures. Some say they are a European thing rather than just Spain, and they are not PBP - I disagree

I am used to a bit of controversy on the palitoy web site. I have a confirmed pakitoy 12 back vinyl cape jawa on there after all.

:wink:

Jason

:lol: very true

 

[olisuds]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help on this. Jason great guide and I love the info you have added on bubbles. I really dont know much about the different types as it's not something I had ever thought about until now.

I've just started to become a lot more particular about the bubbles. So here are some of my many questions .....

Large bubbles - are these tri logo bubbles? They seem a bit too large and the figure can move around too much.

Are the long bubbles also Tri Logo bubbles? Once again i ifnd the figures rattle about too much. Although i really like the ones that have a smaller upper bubble for Lando and Boushh helmets that Jason has pictures on his site.

Twin stem and double stem bubbles - They seem a bit too fragile and seem more prone to yellowing.

Medium sized bubbles without the stems seem a better size. What would you call these? I really like the way they look and they dont seem to yellow much.

I've seen people refer to US/Kenner bubbles, Palitoy bubbles and Tri Logo bubbles - how do i identify which is which?

So many bubble questions

The very large rectangular bubbles with rounded edges are what I call Tri-Logo style bubbles. They first appeared on 65A (and 45C in some cases by the looks of it).

The long bubbles with single stem were first used on 12 backs an onwards on Palitoy cards.

The rectangular bubbles with the square corners that appear on 45C are what I would call Palitoy bubbles as this bubble type was only used by Palitoy as far as I'm aware.

On the 45c page is a Luke Farmboy with a single stem Kenner style bubble. This is very rare to see on a Palitoy card and was probably overstock or spares used when they ran out of regular bubbles in the Palitoy factory.

Hope that helps!

Jason

Thanks Jason, that's just what I was after.

I find it hard to tell the difference between the bubbles with round corners and square corners - is the difference very subtle?

I also saw a long bubble without a stem too?

 

[mr_palitoy]

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help on this. Jason great guide and I love the info you have added on bubbles. I really dont know much about the different types as it's not something I had ever thought about until now.

I've just started to become a lot more particular about the bubbles. So here are some of my many questions .....

Large bubbles - are these tri logo bubbles? They seem a bit too large and the figure can move around too much.

Are the long bubbles also Tri Logo bubbles? Once again i ifnd the figures rattle about too much. Although i really like the ones that have a smaller upper bubble for Lando and Boushh helmets that Jason has pictures on his site.

Twin stem and double stem bubbles - They seem a bit too fragile and seem more prone to yellowing.

Medium sized bubbles without the stems seem a better size. What would you call these? I really like the way they look and they dont seem to yellow much.

I've seen people refer to US/Kenner bubbles, Palitoy bubbles and Tri Logo bubbles - how do i identify which is which?

So many bubble questions

The very large rectangular bubbles with rounded edges are what I call Tri-Logo style bubbles. They first appeared on 65A (and 45C in some cases by the looks of it).

The long bubbles with single stem were first used on 12 backs an onwards on Palitoy cards.

The rectangular bubbles with the square corners that appear on 45C are what I would call Palitoy bubbles as this bubble type was only used by Palitoy as far as I'm aware.

On the 45c page is a Luke Farmboy with a single stem Kenner style bubble. This is very rare to see on a Palitoy card and was probably overstock or spares used when they ran out of regular bubbles in the Palitoy factory.

Hope that helps!

Jason

Thanks Jason, that's just what I was after.

I find it hard to tell the difference between the bubbles with round corners and square corners - is the difference very subtle?

I also saw a long bubble without a stem too?

It's quite easy to spot, take a look at the 45c page in the guide with the luke farmboy on it. The Tri-logo bubble is much larger too.

There are some different shaped bubbles depending on the figure size, which figure had the long bubble?

Jason