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Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.
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<blockquote data-quote="Palifan" data-source="post: 261297" data-attributes="member: 4095"><p>I've been following this thread with great interest since it all kicked off and can really see the problems that this could cause even though it's not an area of collecting that I partake in.</p><p></p><p>There have been some really interesting things put forward on this subject but I agree with some of the early posts about being careful not to get too wrapped up with going down one route and maybe missing something else that's of great importance.</p><p></p><p>One thing I feel that maybe a red herring is the Snow Trooper with an upside down bubble. I'm not sure if this has already been cleared up (although I don't think so), but JJ has stated that he bought these figures from Arthur and that this is not something that TT has been selling (please correct me if I'm wrong on that point). Even if TT has sold these in the past, as JJ sold them also this means that the so called 'iron seal' does not originate from anything TT has done as it must have already existed in Arthur's Palitoy lot he had. This would then mean that other cards showing the same sealing technique may also have come from this original source. Perhaps these were all rejects from the Palitoy factory before it closed it's doors? Saying that though there's no way that the spraymounted bubbles would have ever come from a factory so something has obviously happened there at a later date.</p><p></p><p>The other thing I thought of is that although this whole thread has certainly put a lot of doubt into collectors minds about what TT is selling, I do wonder how much of an impact it will really have on his future sales. I for one had never heard of TT before this thread and I'm guessing there are quite a few other people out there like me. I've been collecting vintage Star Wars for many years and never came across his web site in any of my searches and this thread has in a funny way helped to promote what he sells. I'm guessing that the people who have been buying from him over the years probably have most of what they've been after from him by now, but with this new attention on TT and his web site there maybe a whole new wave of collectors who are happy to have some vintage MOC's in their collection regardless of when they were sealed. It's just a thought I had about this and no offence is intended to people who have TT's cards in their collection and now aren't quite sure what to think about them.</p><p></p><p>One last thing is that I think everyone out there contributing to this thread with their pictures and information from years gone by have all be doing a fantastic job to try and get to the bottom of this. It is very important to find out what the real story is (if any?!), and I feel in time that there will be some sort of resolution.......well I hope so at least!</p><p></p><p>Oh, and just to let you know that I for one have read every post on this thread so it all matters to me! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Ian</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Palifan, post: 261297, member: 4095"] I've been following this thread with great interest since it all kicked off and can really see the problems that this could cause even though it's not an area of collecting that I partake in. There have been some really interesting things put forward on this subject but I agree with some of the early posts about being careful not to get too wrapped up with going down one route and maybe missing something else that's of great importance. One thing I feel that maybe a red herring is the Snow Trooper with an upside down bubble. I'm not sure if this has already been cleared up (although I don't think so), but JJ has stated that he bought these figures from Arthur and that this is not something that TT has been selling (please correct me if I'm wrong on that point). Even if TT has sold these in the past, as JJ sold them also this means that the so called 'iron seal' does not originate from anything TT has done as it must have already existed in Arthur's Palitoy lot he had. This would then mean that other cards showing the same sealing technique may also have come from this original source. Perhaps these were all rejects from the Palitoy factory before it closed it's doors? Saying that though there's no way that the spraymounted bubbles would have ever come from a factory so something has obviously happened there at a later date. The other thing I thought of is that although this whole thread has certainly put a lot of doubt into collectors minds about what TT is selling, I do wonder how much of an impact it will really have on his future sales. I for one had never heard of TT before this thread and I'm guessing there are quite a few other people out there like me. I've been collecting vintage Star Wars for many years and never came across his web site in any of my searches and this thread has in a funny way helped to promote what he sells. I'm guessing that the people who have been buying from him over the years probably have most of what they've been after from him by now, but with this new attention on TT and his web site there maybe a whole new wave of collectors who are happy to have some vintage MOC's in their collection regardless of when they were sealed. It's just a thought I had about this and no offence is intended to people who have TT's cards in their collection and now aren't quite sure what to think about them. One last thing is that I think everyone out there contributing to this thread with their pictures and information from years gone by have all be doing a fantastic job to try and get to the bottom of this. It is very important to find out what the real story is (if any?!), and I feel in time that there will be some sort of resolution.......well I hope so at least! Oh, and just to let you know that I for one have read every post on this thread so it all matters to me! :D Ian [/QUOTE]
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