Palitoy 12 backs at Denhams Auction House

[Mr-shifter]

Any of you guys bidding on the items at Denhams today? Its an auction house in sussex/surrey. It had a art and collectables auction today which randomly included 6 Palitoy 12b's

I had a chat with the auctioneers and these came in with a load of Hornby stuff, just in a box. They had not sold any Star Wars before and were going to chuck them in one lot with a value of £60. They pulled them and did a little more research and came back with the following estimates:

R2 crushed bubble £50-£100
Leia crushed bubble £50-£100
Tusken £100-£200
C3PO £100-£200
Darth Vader £100-£200
Chewbacca £600-£800

The final hammer prices were as follows:

R2 crushed bubble £820
Leia crushed bubble £900
Tusken £600
C3PO £580
Darth Vader £760
Chewbacca £2200

I wanted to have a go at the Tusken as it was in fantastic condition, but I don't have the money and thought it was about market. I thought the R2 was high, the card back was as curved as a flower pot, the Leia was about market, the vader was a good price, and the C3PO was too much, as the whole right side of the bubble is not sealed anymore. I don't think the auction house were aware of this, although I did point it out, I think it was too late. The chewy was a great price.

Interesting to know what the Palitoy experts think of these prices, as I am normally off with Palitoy. To me it was the Vader and Chewy that were the good deals, especially compared to what they might have gone for at Vectis.

If anyone is interested, I have some more photos.

http://www.denhams.com

 

[jedisearcher]

Could you bid online for these? I'd seen them and was going to watch out of interest rather than wanting to buy them, but there was no bid button anyway on thesaleroom.com.

I might be wrong :lol:

 

[itfciain]

These Palitoy Chewies just keep popping up - I thought they were rare :lol:

 

[Palifan]

These Palitoy Chewies just keep popping up - I thought they were rare :lol:

I know and it mights you wonder what millionsoftoys accepted for theirs today.

Ian

 

[Mr-shifter]

No online bidding. By phone, pre registering bids at the auction house or via phone or being there.

I was hoping to pinch a bargain

 

[maxf]

The chewie was quite cheap although wasn't in amazing shape (perfectly displayable though, but the back of the card looked a bit creased/faded). The leia was too much IMO as the bubble was knackered - the r2 was high too at nearly a grand for a c8 example. I thought the vader was ok ish, but certainly no bargain and the sand people was ok too.

I don't think chewie is as tough as made out - although we might go a couple of years now and not see another (palitoy rep stuff aside).

 

[Waltham Wookiee]

These Palitoy Chewies just keep popping up - I thought they were rare :lol:

All the recent ones have been 12 A's this was a 12 B so a bit more uncommon.

 

[palitoyjunky]

These Palitoy Chewies just keep popping up - I thought they were rare :lol:

All the recent ones have been 12 A's this was a 12 B so a bit more uncommon.

Think uncommon is more the word :!: The word 'rare' is used far too much-esp on ebay :lol: :lol:

 

[sith-smith]

Too true

Will be a good day when the word rare becomes rare.

Or at least more uncommon!

 

[Jez]

Interesting thread Ben, thanks for posting it. I need to get more into auctions. Yet to pop my auction house cherry properly.

 

[TrisCompany]

The c3po bubble is not sealed - oh bollocks... I bought that. I went off the online description:

http://www.denhams.com/condition_report.php?lot_id=386604

It said the bubble was intact. Are you sure?

Is there anything I can do, or do I have to lump it?

 

[Andyclarke]

The c3po bubble is not sealed - oh bollocks... I bought that. I went off the online description:

http://www.denhams.com/condition_report.php?lot_id=386604

It said the bubble was intact. Are you sure?

Is there anything I can do, or do I have to lump it?

I think they have misrepresented the item and made a serious mistake and Mr shifter has pointed it out to them already. I would have no qualms rejecting it, it's not even worth half the final price.

 

[Mr-shifter]

The c3po bubble is not sealed - oh bollocks... I bought that. I went off the online description:

http://www.denhams.com/condition_report.php?lot_id=386604

It said the bubble was intact. Are you sure?

Is there anything I can do, or do I have to lump it?

Sorry buddy. It's lifted all the way along the inside of the bubble. You can poke a piece of cardboard under it.

It has also taken a big hit to the side of the card. Pm me your email, I have some photos.

 

[maxf]

I'd speak to them before they send it, assuming you're not collecting.

Your rights at auction are pretty different to your normal rights when buying something but a decent auction house should sort you out I would hope. However they can hide behind the fact that you had the opportunity to inspect and didn't take it and that they got the description from the seller (an auction house is only a middle man, unlike a normal retailer).

Good luck!

 

[TrisCompany]

Thanks for the posts guys. Must admit I'm a bit gutted, they seemed to be accurately listing any defect and stated that they had their own person grade any issues or defects on the listings. I'm due to pick them up this week so will have a chat with them. I'll let you know what happens.

Thanks for the invite on photos, will send a PM.

 

[mr_palitoy]

That listing is for ****. I'd be wanting the auction house to make good on that.

Good luck!

Jason

 

[Mr-shifter]

I saw these on the Monday before the tuesday auction. Like I said before, the auction house has never sold star wars MOCs before so where pretty clueless. They thought one of the critical issues when handling them was not to knock the punch out and that the crushed bubble cards would automatically be less than the others.

I pointed it out to one of the auctioneers. The whole right side of the bubble sits off the card. I suppose at that late stage of the auction proceedings their only option would have been to pull the piece and re auction it at a later date.

The estimated value was £100 - £200, which is not that off.

I will email you the photos tris, just a thought though, do they have payment details for you? If you tell them you aren't paying and walk out then they won't have any way of getting it from you.

 

[TrisCompany]

Already paid unfortunately. Hopefully they'll be reasonable. Seem like a reasonable bunch. We shall see!

 

[TrisCompany]

BTW went back down to Denhams to inspect C3PO. They were really good and gave me a full refund and then reauctioned it. I then rebought it, as it is a really great MOC apart from the lifting (at half the price) (I had also bought the R2D2 with crushed bubble). I didn't have a C3po, it's a lovely item, I'd forgotten how golden he is and it offsets against the blues and reds on the card. It's great. It's pretty sad, but it also seems poetic that both of them were in the same shop with the same price tag and both have stayed together over the last near 40 yrs, and now will do into the future. Afterall C3PO and R2 were meant to be together. Thanks to Ben for advice and to Denhams, would highly recommend them.

 

[Joe]

That's still a lovely figure, glad to hear you bought it at a lower price and are keeping him and R2 together.