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<blockquote data-quote="Snaketibe" data-source="post: 553138" data-attributes="member: 7379"><p>As for episode 3 itself, to quote many a Star Wars character... I have a bad feeling about this <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" />.</p><p></p><p>Whilst superficially it looked good and Ewan McGregor's acting remains as excellent as ever, the increasing disregard for canon is a BIG problem. If others manage to see past that, then that's up to them, but I can't. If George Lucas didn't feel the need to break canon, who the hell are Disney to play fast and loose with it? It is perfectly apparent from 'A New Hope' that Vader and Obi-Wan had not met each other since their battle on Mustafar, and yet here we see them not only meeting, but fighting and Obi-Wan getting his ass kicked to boot! Does that gel with Vader saying on the Death Star, 'I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner. Now, *I* am the master'?</p><p></p><p>And to repeat a point I made in my previous post about the first two episodes, it's completely unrealistic (and yet utterly typical of Disney's constant denigration of legacy characters) to have Obi-Wan Kenobi suddenly be a weak and feeble Force-user! Would he feel beaten and deflated by the Empire wiping out the Jedi? Of course. Would he feel a sense of massive personal failure at Anakin turning to the Dark Side? Certainly (and btw, there is NO way he could possibly be surprised at the 'revelation' that Anakin was Darth Vader and hence was still alive. He would have known this for many years by this point, not least through using the sodding Force!). However, Yoda gave him two jobs to do on Tatooine, one of which was to watch over Luke as the potential saviour of the Jedi Order. And for that, if for no other reason, Obi-Wan would have maintained his Jedi skills, ensuring that he could fulfil the role given to him by Yoda. It's preposterous and insulting to believe he would have become another 'Last Jedi Luke'; a weak and feeble shadow of his former self so completely at odds with the man we knew as to even eschew his lightsaber, the weapon of a Jedi Knight, an elegant weapon for a more civilized age, and instead choose to use a clumsy, random blaster! Who is this Jake Kenobi, because it sure as hell ain't Obi-Wan?!</p><p></p><p>If Disney had any sense at all (which they haven't), or a single ounce of respect for Star Wars (obviously not), they would have given us a series where an older, wiser, but still fully powerful Jedi Obi-Wan went on a thrilling adventure, meeting adversaries worthy of him, and enabling him to show us the full spectrum of his skills; skills which would be required and necessary to overcome the challenges littering his path. I want to see Jedi in action, not Jedi inaction.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snaketibe, post: 553138, member: 7379"] As for episode 3 itself, to quote many a Star Wars character... I have a bad feeling about this :(. Whilst superficially it looked good and Ewan McGregor's acting remains as excellent as ever, the increasing disregard for canon is a BIG problem. If others manage to see past that, then that's up to them, but I can't. If George Lucas didn't feel the need to break canon, who the hell are Disney to play fast and loose with it? It is perfectly apparent from 'A New Hope' that Vader and Obi-Wan had not met each other since their battle on Mustafar, and yet here we see them not only meeting, but fighting and Obi-Wan getting his ass kicked to boot! Does that gel with Vader saying on the Death Star, 'I've been waiting for you, Obi-Wan. We meet again, at last. The circle is now complete. When I left you I was but the learner. Now, *I* am the master'? And to repeat a point I made in my previous post about the first two episodes, it's completely unrealistic (and yet utterly typical of Disney's constant denigration of legacy characters) to have Obi-Wan Kenobi suddenly be a weak and feeble Force-user! Would he feel beaten and deflated by the Empire wiping out the Jedi? Of course. Would he feel a sense of massive personal failure at Anakin turning to the Dark Side? Certainly (and btw, there is NO way he could possibly be surprised at the 'revelation' that Anakin was Darth Vader and hence was still alive. He would have known this for many years by this point, not least through using the sodding Force!). However, Yoda gave him two jobs to do on Tatooine, one of which was to watch over Luke as the potential saviour of the Jedi Order. And for that, if for no other reason, Obi-Wan would have maintained his Jedi skills, ensuring that he could fulfil the role given to him by Yoda. It's preposterous and insulting to believe he would have become another 'Last Jedi Luke'; a weak and feeble shadow of his former self so completely at odds with the man we knew as to even eschew his lightsaber, the weapon of a Jedi Knight, an elegant weapon for a more civilized age, and instead choose to use a clumsy, random blaster! Who is this Jake Kenobi, because it sure as hell ain't Obi-Wan?! If Disney had any sense at all (which they haven't), or a single ounce of respect for Star Wars (obviously not), they would have given us a series where an older, wiser, but still fully powerful Jedi Obi-Wan went on a thrilling adventure, meeting adversaries worthy of him, and enabling him to show us the full spectrum of his skills; skills which would be required and necessary to overcome the challenges littering his path. I want to see Jedi in action, not Jedi inaction. [/QUOTE]
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