lily ledy for biker scout or speeder bikes

[jimmymindtricks]

iam pretty sure these are lily ledy's

like to trade them to increase my focus

thanks in advance

 

[Stargeezer]

what makes you thing they are ledy's? i am pretty sure they are not (at least the vader and RC aren't the Ewoks and Rancor Keeper are hard to tell from one pic.)

 

[jimmymindtricks]

oke where do i begin

i got my info from mainly to links ive recieved and fond on the forum

http://www.spnet.ne.jp/~swcoll/06other/04lililedy/01lililedy.htm
http://www.lichtgeschwindigkeit.de/inde ... pic&t=3812

Rebel Commander (i do want to ad to this that on one link they show pics of this fig with different sleeves where on the other link it has normal sleeves)
Ledy: left chest emblems different painting
Ledy: black painted details on front and back shiny instead of matt
Ledy: different painting details on back of head

note: the compared no coo Rebel Commander shows different painting details to standard Hong Kong coo versions too; the Torso variation in the lower front part and on the belt is not unique to Ledy Rebel Commanders

to see more detail pics check the german link you'l see the dif ,

the lumat after more research iam not so sure ,without accs. , one thing is for sure it has no coo

my favorite the darth vader

first off all let me tell you that the saber and cape are fake , i made the cape my self

Ledy: smaller details on chestplate and belt
Ledy: different molding details on both hands
Ledy: thick sabertip
Ledy: coo Hong Kong barely readable
Anm.: Ledy Vader's limbs are way more shiny compared to the other figure here. But there are other Vader-variants that have those shiny limbs too. The Brazilian Glasslite Darth Vader has a thick sabertip too, but the saber has a different colour.

here is a pic off that german link i keep telling you about , wich i guess beeing the new guy ,yall already knew off this long before me :wink:

and here are my pics , happens so that i got a hong kong fig myself

keep in mind that my fig are in much more used condition ( breastplate paint )

see the dif in the date and coo, same as on the link

Rancor Keeper
i dont have acceseries on the lily ledy but check the pics on the german link and compare it to mine

plus what the extra differens is ist belt ( pamper like upper side off the pants whatever you kids call it )

is in a different color

so either iam following the wrong info or theire realy lily ledy's

except on the lumat

 

[jimmymindtricks]

these i'd trade for boxed speeders and moc biker scouts obo

i also consider cash offers on al my tradebait , then i can buy some my self

thanks in advance

 

[weasel]

I'll check the RC against mine (it's MOC) tomorrow if you want?

 

[jimmymindtricks]

I'll check the RC against mine (it's MOC) tomorrow if you want?

cool ,still could it be that lily ledy made a variation with the normal arms and an other type of arms

 

[weasel]

In my far from expert opinion, he looks like LL.
Although I obviously can't compare him to the back of mine as the card gets in the way.

 

[Stargeezer]

Yes i allready knew about those sites (would be nice if they would be updated agian, the missing LL figures have not been update for ages). :|

Ok i don't wanna be the asshole that comes to ruin your swap thread, here but here are my views on these figures.
Let me tell you, i have a RC similar to yours wich also is not LL.
It has like yours (and like a Ledy has) the left chest emblems with different painting (and combined togheter), black painted details on front and back in shiny instead of matt paint, but also like your it has the wrong colour off moustache (wich also should be thicker), lighter boots and as you mention as a reference different painting details on the back of head, wich should (or almost) reach to the molded buckle (your RC doesn't has that either).


About the Vader, ok maybe that was a to quick call, but i saw the saber and thought not ledy (but now you mention the saber and cape are fake) so i assume the vader figure itself is LL, the biggest give away is the chespainting that matches up. (you also always can check his saberhand for the missing triangle, like the example shows on lightgeschwindigkeit).

As for the Lumat, its very normal it doesn't have a COO, but like you say without accesoires and it very hard to tell from a picture, but as you also may have seen on the german site, the only reference for the figure itself is the light colour off blue grey(ish) on the nose and mouth but if you have not seen one in real, it's almost impossible to tell the difference without having the 2 next to each other.

As for the Rancor Keeper it is a no COO variant, but the biggest pointer to make it an LL is missing (it has no shiny darkgreen boots...)

I copy'ed this next line directly from the German site:
- note: no standard no coo Rancor Keeper to compare, but I've seen on pictures he has darkgray boots as well.

And that is what i believe your rancor keeper is, a regular 'no COO' Rancor keeper. (by the way he is a little bit rarer as the taiwan variant).

I hope i did not spoil your day mate. Anyway good luck with the focus on the bikerscout and speederbikes and no harm ment to your trades, but i just wanted to point it out that not all figures without a COO are Lili Ledy figures.

Cheers, Dennis.

 

[weasel]

Freely admit to not being an expert on variations between the different makes of figures, but front on his LL RC is identical to mine. The backs may be different, but the fronts are identical.

 

[jimmymindtricks]

i had tree differnt rc in my hands to day and the lower front part of the vest is totaly different it has only 2 stripes runing true it and thos other clearly have four full lenght stripes , as mine has two short once but not runing true al the way

wich you can also see clearly on the site

either way thanks for pointing out why the others may not be LL

and who am i to discusse this matter ive only heard about LL a month ago

either way still up for grabs folks

 

[weasel]

And I freely admit to knowing nothing about variants and variations!
Meaning Dennis is probably right! :lol:

 

[jimmymindtricks]

bump still hunting

 

[jimmymindtricks]

additianole pics of the scout walkers

both boxes say palitoy, but one of the instructions sais meccano

dont know wich instructions came with wich box

i only have inside cardboard for one of them so i guess the first one to go gets that

i'll clean the walkers a bit up tonight , as they are coverd in dust

and i'l post those pic's tonight

 

[jaymassive619]

Hi Jimmy

Dennis is correct on the information he provided you.

Regarding the Vader its hard to tell as the accessories as you stated are REPRO / Home made?.

I don't feel it is a LL variant but the best way to confirm that is to take a close up picture of the hands. If it is Lily Ledy im afriaid its not worth much at all (a pound or 2?) as its incomplete and the LL Vader can easily be picked up mint and complete due to its widespread release on MIM MOC's.

I wish you good look with the sales / trades its just when it comes to Lily Ledy some people have been studying these variants for years and years and even then they can still make mistakes.

A big problem with the Lily Ledy market is certain no COO variants and other close matches are been sold, passed off or wrongly identified as Lily Ledy.

The greatest problem with Lily Ledy collecting is the weapons in my opinion approx 80% - 90% of Lily Lily weapons sold on eBay are not Lily Ledy.

Throw the whole Made In Mexico issues into the mix (some MIM MOC's are packed with genuine Lily Ledy Weapons whilst others are packed with the Lily Ledy figure but a standard Kenner Weapon Variant etc).

Hopefully once i launch my website the Lily Ledy weapon problem should be alleviated some what as we have categorized all the 100% Genuine Lily Ledy weapons and you can see them next to there Kenner, PBP, Glassite etc counterparts.

Jay

 

[jimmymindtricks]

thanks for the info

forget about whole lili ledy offer folks as they are not worth a decent trade

 

[jimmymindtricks]

come on people somebody must have some bikerscouts they want to get rid of

check out my collection pic's , everything that isnt bikerscout is tradeable

everything :shock: :shock:

 

[**Delboy75**]

Jimmy have you seen this

http://threads.rebelscum.com/showflat.php?Cat=5&Number=3959690&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=93&fpart=1#Post3963856#3959690

That would be a nice addition!

 

[jimmymindtricks]

@ delboy ,
first off all thank you for thinking off me.
secondly , yes i did contacted him a couple off day's back unfortunaly he's asking a bit more then i can spare at the moment.

i asked him if he was up for a trade , but he replied that he is only interested in bootlegs

and ive only got that blue at-at driver to spare

maybe the next one that comes along

 

[tatsie]

I've still got the Speederbikes.. and one BIkerScout MOC to trade. Will trade for POTF MOC figures.

 

[Caswellbot]

I have an AFA 75 Short Mouth Biker Scout MOC and a Speeder Bike MISB if you are interested?

CHRIS.