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When you say "A childhood collection", do you mean your childhood collection, or someone else's? If it was someone else's, can you be certain that cardback was bought in the 80s and not the 90s (or later)? This seems important to me - if that triangular imprint at the bottom of the bubble is...

Okay, I didn't catch that. It still doesn't prove anything though. Your piece could be legit. We don't know. All we know so far is that every black-smudged 65-back palitoy hoth trooper we have found so far cannot be traced back to a store shelf in the 80s. They are all either confirmed to...

There is no verdict. I am trying to compile a list of 65-back hoth troopers that we know are legit, and those that we know are suspect. If yours had iron marks, or if you know anything else about its history that would make it suspect, that would put it in the suspect camp. If, on the other...

Thanks for those photos. Does your hoth trooper have iron marks on it by any chance? BTW - the red and blue lines don't mean anything. They even exist on the kenners.

obiwannacollect - didn't you say somewhere else that your 65-back hoth trooper is also suspect? Or do you feel yours is legit? Either way, could you post photos of it? Does it have the little black smudge to the right of the rotj logo, or little white flecks embedded in the gloss?

At a minimum, it seems worthwhile to me to try to come up with a way to identify suspect ones, for future reference. I have been trying to see if anyone out there (other than Kevin_Lentz) has a 65-back palitoy hoth trooper that they know is legit. If we can find enough of those, we can...

Vernon - does that dust shadow in the middle of the card (the one between the "J" and "E" in the "jedi" logo) go under the bubble? Or is it on top? Or does it just stop at the bubble?

Okay, reading further, it sounds like ace was first claiming it was one of his (as in, I thought he was defending it as legitimate), but later he backs off and says he got it from arthur that way. So, in other words, he is not claiming it is legit. I am trying to figure out if that little...

What's the story on this one? Is this believed to be a legitimate piece, or one of the "modern-sealed" ones? I ask, because it has the black smudge on it. If it turns out to be legitimate, then that would mean the black smudge idea is kaput.