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You know when you been Tonied, an oddessy in AFA 90 grading.
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<blockquote data-quote="RKW1138" data-source="post: 267413" data-attributes="member: 4382"><p><span style="color: #FF8000">I'm not sure you can be so confident that the wrong bubble <strong>type</strong> was used. It would certainly appear that the German/Dutch</span></p><p> <span style="color: #FF8000">market preferred the double stem blister but I can probably find just as many examples of a Trilogo blister used on both 45 & 65 back cards as double stem.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">Here is a picture showing Trilogo bubbles with price stickers. The Hoth Leia has a Tesco price sticker.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">[ATTACH=full]135329[/ATTACH]</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">If we had to say which cards have the highest likely hood of being modern seals then I would say any card with the wider looking rectangular bubble.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">However there are genuine shop purchased examples of rectangular bubbles so we shouldn't quickly say they are all fake.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">Here is a picture that I believe illustrates what is genuine and what is not.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">[ATTACH=full]135330[/ATTACH]</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">A close up photo showing the bottom of store purchased Obiwan & Hoth Han. Both bubbles are the same width but the coloured backing of Han Solo is wider so the bubble would have to be centralized to cover the entire yellow area of the card.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">[ATTACH=full]135331[/ATTACH]</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">[ATTACH=full]135332[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]135333[/ATTACH]</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">Now all the cards from ToyToni have the bubble centralised which makes them look wider than the known genuine examples. </span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">In the photo below you will see the difference in bubble contact area between the ToyToni Luke and a shop purchased </span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">AT-AT commander.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">[ATTACH=full]135334[/ATTACH]</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #FF8000">At first I thought the area of the bubble that the figure lies in was wider on the ToyToni but without having any in hand to measure I'm not so sure.</span></p><p> <span style="color: #FF8000">I'm thinking that they are the same bubble but the difference is that a bubble that sits in the heat sealer bubble retainer has its sides squeezed in.</span></p><p> <span style="color: #FF8000">Where as if you were just manually laying a bubble onto the card the plastic would be relaxed and flared out making it look wider.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RKW1138, post: 267413, member: 4382"] [color=#FF8000]I'm not sure you can be so confident that the wrong bubble [b]type[/b] was used. It would certainly appear that the German/Dutch market preferred the double stem blister but I can probably find just as many examples of a Trilogo blister used on both 45 & 65 back cards as double stem. Here is a picture showing Trilogo bubbles with price stickers. The Hoth Leia has a Tesco price sticker. [ATTACH=full]135329[/ATTACH] If we had to say which cards have the highest likely hood of being modern seals then I would say any card with the wider looking rectangular bubble. However there are genuine shop purchased examples of rectangular bubbles so we shouldn't quickly say they are all fake. Here is a picture that I believe illustrates what is genuine and what is not. [ATTACH=full]135330[/ATTACH] A close up photo showing the bottom of store purchased Obiwan & Hoth Han. Both bubbles are the same width but the coloured backing of Han Solo is wider so the bubble would have to be centralized to cover the entire yellow area of the card. [ATTACH=full]135331[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]135332[/ATTACH][ATTACH=full]135333[/ATTACH] Now all the cards from ToyToni have the bubble centralised which makes them look wider than the known genuine examples. In the photo below you will see the difference in bubble contact area between the ToyToni Luke and a shop purchased AT-AT commander. [ATTACH=full]135334[/ATTACH] At first I thought the area of the bubble that the figure lies in was wider on the ToyToni but without having any in hand to measure I'm not so sure. I'm thinking that they are the same bubble but the difference is that a bubble that sits in the heat sealer bubble retainer has its sides squeezed in. Where as if you were just manually laying a bubble onto the card the plastic would be relaxed and flared out making it look wider.[/color] [/QUOTE]
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