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Woolworths Special Buy 8 Star Wars Figures for 99p Pack Research Findings
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<blockquote data-quote="laurencedyer" data-source="post: 488454" data-attributes="member: 5990"><p>The topic of the Woolworths 8 packs and the suggestion that there are fake packs out in the market has been raised numerous times in recent years. The packs often raise suspicion with no real clarification as to what is deemed as a pack that was mentioned as questionable or one of authenticity. </p><p></p><p>A search of every platform thought of globally was undertaken in order to compare every sample located. The sample size has two collections omitted. The omissions were due as the collections could not be analysed effectively from the images available.</p><p></p><p>Multiple anomalies were observed during the research to a point where two different styles of packs were identified and a variant of one style of pack also observed.</p><p></p><p>After research and analysis of the complete sample size identified of the Woolworths Special Buy 8 Star Wars Figures for 99p packs, the following comparisons have been documented for consideration. </p><p></p><p>The different stickers & packs observed have been referred to as either Palitoy or Suspect for clarity.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF0000">There are 10 observations for consideration.</span></p><p></p><p>1.Price Sticker Font Comparison.</p><p>2.Price Sticker Size & Durability Comparison.</p><p>3.Bag Variations & Sticker Combination, Construction & Manufacture Quality.</p><p>4.Palitoy Created Special Offer Price Stickers</p><p>5.Special Buy offer stickers font printing methods and ink characteristics</p><p>6.Woolworths 8 Pack Population.</p><p>7.Pack Contents.</p><p>8.Figure comparison analysis.</p><p>9.Packs with baggies and their content anomalies.</p><p>10.Timeline of all 3 pack variants recording the dates that each pack were noticed from the search findings.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF0000"><u>Observation 1.</u></span></p><p><span style="color: #FF0000"></span></p><p>Price Sticker Font Comparison.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF40FF">The pack styles as mentioned on the introductory thread are referred to in each post as either a </span><span style="color: #FF0000">Palitoy</span> <span style="color: #FF40FF">or a</span> <span style="color: #FF0000">Suspect</span> <span style="color: #FF40FF">for clarification. </span></p><p><span style="color: #FF40FF">Where possible I will present the comparisons of each thread laid out firstly of a Palitoy font and then of a Suspect font.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF40FF"></span></p><p>The first difference that was observed whilst undertaking this research was that of the font between the two different pack styles.</p><p></p><p>The initial difference noticed was that of the number<span style="color: #FF4000"> 9's </span>and the <span style="color: #FF4000">P</span> from the 99p of the price label.</p><p>The centre of the Palitoy number nine seemed more oval then that of the Suspect number nine which was rounder in shape. </p><p>The P from the Pence after the number nine was also different. The Palitoy P was smaller in size than that of the P on the Suspect pack.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">This image is of the Palitoy and Suspect label side by side.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">From this image you can see the 9 & P from the Palitoy label on the left has a more oval centre and the P is smaller in size. The Suspect label on the right has a rounder centre and as you can see has a bigger letter P.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000"></span></p><p>[ATTACH=full]45775[/ATTACH]</p><p><span style="color: #FF4000"></span></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">The next observation that was made was that the Palitoy label had two different print layouts.</span></p><p></p><p>The variation to the label was the layout of the text itself. The <span style="color: #FF4000">S</span> from the word <span style="color: #FF4000">STAR</span> and the <span style="color: #FF4000">F </span>from the word <span style="color: #FF4000">FIGURES</span> are positioned differently. </p><p>It was also noticed that both of the Palitoy variant of label had a thicker font to that of the Suspect label. For clarity when the fonts are referred to as a <span style="color: #FF0000">Thick font </span>this is referring to both Palitoy label fonts and if the font is referenced to as <span style="color: #FF0000">Thin font</span> this is referring to the Suspect font. </p><p></p><p>These two styles of print have been termed as <span style="color: #FF0000">Offset</span> and <span style="color: #FF0000">Inline</span> due to the positioning of the F in Figures to the S in Star.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">This image shows the positioning of the letters for the Offset label.</span></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]45777[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">This image shows the positioning of the letters for the Inline label.</span></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]45778[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">The next image shows 4 examples together of the Palitoy created labels. The top two empty bags are both of the Offset variant and the bottom two are of the Inline variant as highlighted on this image. </span></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000"></span></p><p>[ATTACH=full]45780[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">With three variants of font identified, two being considered of a Palitoy created label and one of Suspect created label a simple test was conducted by digitally overlaying the different font styles with each other.</span></p><p></p><p>The test was conducted by trying to line up all the different words with nothing on the <span style="color: #FF4000">Thick</span> or <span style="color: #FF4000">Thin</span> fonts lining up at all.</p><p></p><p>The next two images show the thick font vs thin font results. As you can see the text does not line up at all based on either the sticker size (image 1) or the text itself (image 2.) This shows that the fonts and font sizes are different.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">Overlay test 1. Sticker.</span></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]45786[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">Overlay test 2. Text.</span></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000"></span></p><p>[ATTACH=full]46159[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">The next two Images, Overlay test three and four show that if you overlay the Palitoy label genuine thick font figure and playset stickers from other Special Buy items, although the content is different, both the </span><span style="color: #FF0000">'special buy' </span><span style="color: #FF4000">and</span><span style="color: #FF0000"> '99p' </span><span style="color: #FF4000">line up perfectly showing it is the same font and font size.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">Overlay test 3. Special Buy.</span></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]45788[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">Overlay test 4. 99p.</span></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]45789[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">Palitoy label used for both the Overlay tests 1 & 2 & also for the Overlay tests 3 & 4.</span></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]45784[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FF4000">Suspect label used for the Overlay tests 1 & 2.</span></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]45783[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="laurencedyer, post: 488454, member: 5990"] The topic of the Woolworths 8 packs and the suggestion that there are fake packs out in the market has been raised numerous times in recent years. The packs often raise suspicion with no real clarification as to what is deemed as a pack that was mentioned as questionable or one of authenticity. A search of every platform thought of globally was undertaken in order to compare every sample located. The sample size has two collections omitted. The omissions were due as the collections could not be analysed effectively from the images available. Multiple anomalies were observed during the research to a point where two different styles of packs were identified and a variant of one style of pack also observed. After research and analysis of the complete sample size identified of the Woolworths Special Buy 8 Star Wars Figures for 99p packs, the following comparisons have been documented for consideration. The different stickers & packs observed have been referred to as either Palitoy or Suspect for clarity. [color=#FF0000]There are 10 observations for consideration.[/color] 1.Price Sticker Font Comparison. 2.Price Sticker Size & Durability Comparison. 3.Bag Variations & Sticker Combination, Construction & Manufacture Quality. 4.Palitoy Created Special Offer Price Stickers 5.Special Buy offer stickers font printing methods and ink characteristics 6.Woolworths 8 Pack Population. 7.Pack Contents. 8.Figure comparison analysis. 9.Packs with baggies and their content anomalies. 10.Timeline of all 3 pack variants recording the dates that each pack were noticed from the search findings. [color=#FF0000][u]Observation 1.[/u] [/color] Price Sticker Font Comparison. [color=#FF40FF]The pack styles as mentioned on the introductory thread are referred to in each post as either a [/color][color=#FF0000]Palitoy[/color] [color=#FF40FF]or a[/color] [color=#FF0000]Suspect[/color] [color=#FF40FF]for clarification. Where possible I will present the comparisons of each thread laid out firstly of a Palitoy font and then of a Suspect font. [/color] The first difference that was observed whilst undertaking this research was that of the font between the two different pack styles. The initial difference noticed was that of the number[color=#FF4000] 9's [/color]and the [color=#FF4000]P[/color] from the 99p of the price label. The centre of the Palitoy number nine seemed more oval then that of the Suspect number nine which was rounder in shape. The P from the Pence after the number nine was also different. The Palitoy P was smaller in size than that of the P on the Suspect pack. [color=#FF4000]This image is of the Palitoy and Suspect label side by side. From this image you can see the 9 & P from the Palitoy label on the left has a more oval centre and the P is smaller in size. The Suspect label on the right has a rounder centre and as you can see has a bigger letter P. [/color] [ATTACH type="full" alt="20180529_191252.jpg"]45775._xfImport[/ATTACH] [color=#FF4000] The next observation that was made was that the Palitoy label had two different print layouts.[/color] The variation to the label was the layout of the text itself. The [color=#FF4000]S[/color] from the word [color=#FF4000]STAR[/color] and the [color=#FF4000]F [/color]from the word [color=#FF4000]FIGURES[/color] are positioned differently. It was also noticed that both of the Palitoy variant of label had a thicker font to that of the Suspect label. For clarity when the fonts are referred to as a [color=#FF0000]Thick font [/color]this is referring to both Palitoy label fonts and if the font is referenced to as [color=#FF0000]Thin font[/color] this is referring to the Suspect font. These two styles of print have been termed as [color=#FF0000]Offset[/color] and [color=#FF0000]Inline[/color] due to the positioning of the F in Figures to the S in Star. [color=#FF4000]This image shows the positioning of the letters for the Offset label.[/color] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Palitoy variation 1.jpg"]45777._xfImport[/ATTACH] [color=#FF4000]This image shows the positioning of the letters for the Inline label.[/color] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Palitoy variation 2.jpg"]45778._xfImport[/ATTACH] [color=#FF4000]The next image shows 4 examples together of the Palitoy created labels. The top two empty bags are both of the Offset variant and the bottom two are of the Inline variant as highlighted on this image. [/color] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Offset & Inline labels.jpg"]45780._xfImport[/ATTACH] [color=#FF4000]With three variants of font identified, two being considered of a Palitoy created label and one of Suspect created label a simple test was conducted by digitally overlaying the different font styles with each other.[/color] The test was conducted by trying to line up all the different words with nothing on the [color=#FF4000]Thick[/color] or [color=#FF4000]Thin[/color] fonts lining up at all. The next two images show the thick font vs thin font results. As you can see the text does not line up at all based on either the sticker size (image 1) or the text itself (image 2.) This shows that the fonts and font sizes are different. [color=#FF4000]Overlay test 1. Sticker.[/color] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Overlay 1.jpg"]45786._xfImport[/ATTACH] [color=#FF4000]Overlay test 2. Text. [/color] [ATTACH type="full" alt="overlay2.jpg"]46159._xfImport[/ATTACH] [color=#FF4000]The next two Images, Overlay test three and four show that if you overlay the Palitoy label genuine thick font figure and playset stickers from other Special Buy items, although the content is different, both the [/color][color=#FF0000]'special buy' [/color][color=#FF4000]and[/color][color=#FF0000] '99p' [/color][color=#FF4000]line up perfectly showing it is the same font and font size.[/color] [color=#FF4000]Overlay test 3. Special Buy.[/color] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Overlay 3.jpg"]45788._xfImport[/ATTACH] [color=#FF4000]Overlay test 4. 99p.[/color] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Overlay 4.jpg"]45789._xfImport[/ATTACH] [color=#FF4000]Palitoy label used for both the Overlay tests 1 & 2 & also for the Overlay tests 3 & 4.[/color] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Overlay example used 2.jpg"]45784._xfImport[/ATTACH] [color=#FF4000]Suspect label used for the Overlay tests 1 & 2.[/color] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Overlay example used 1.jpg"]45783._xfImport[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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