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The Revised Kenner baggie Guide
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<blockquote data-quote="Frunkstar" data-source="post: 436850" data-attributes="member: 314"><p>[ATTACH=full]164990[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #FFFF00"><span style="font-size: 26px">EMPIRE STRIKES BACK ERA BAGGIES</span></span></p><p></p><p>In this section again I hope to tackle some previously undocumented font variations as well as clear zoomed in photos of the actual font's beneath each baggie type </p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]164991[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-a</span> - both 1st & 2nd issue as well as alternate font colour on the 2nd issue type shown above - soft bag heat sealed</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]164992[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Close up of all 3 side by side</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]164993[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-a </span>- 1st & 2nd issues side by side - 1st issue on the right</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]164994[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Close up of them side by side, this time 1st issue on the left</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]164995[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>2nd issue - both font colours shown light blue on left dark blue on right</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]164996[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-a - 1st issue</span> font</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]164997[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-a - 2nd issue </span>(Light blue) font</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]164998[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-a - 2nd issue</span> (dark blue) font</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]164999[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-b </span>- only know to have existed in the Special offer (1st issue bounty hunters) Darth Vader collectors case ( IG88 / Bossk / Fett ) - soft bag heat sealed</p><p></p><p>New info - the collectors case has been found on multiple occasions with the IG88 in the 1st issue ESB-a baggie, so there was some variation, making the IG88 one of the rarest known baggies (in the ESB-b baggie)</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165000[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-b</span> - font close up</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165001[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-c </span>- above showing both font types (large & small) the small font would seem to be the earlier issue, Small font on the left - crisp bag tape sealed</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165002[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-c - 1st issue</span> Small font zoom</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165003[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-c - 2nd issue</span> Large font zoom</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165004[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-d</span> - pretty much identical to ESB-c large font version but heat sealed rather than taped - crisp bag heat sealed</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165005[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-d </span>- Font zoom</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165006[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-e </span>- Kenner / General Mills logo - Soft bag heat sealed</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165007[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-e </span>- Font zoom</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165008[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-f </span>- pretty much just a vertical rather than horizontal version of the ESB-a shown above, Soft bag heat sealed</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165009[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-f</span> - font zoom</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165010[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-g</span> - Both font types shown above - V1 & V2, the V1 has Chunky text & the kenner box shows on the right hand side of the Made in China text, the V2 Has thin text & the Kenner box shows to the left of the Made in China text, or has on all examples I have seen of each style to date. both V1 & V2 - Soft bag heat sealed</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165011[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-g - V1</span></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165012[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-g - V2</span></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165013[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-h</span> baggies all shown above as they are classed to date, I am going to split these all up in to defined classification to avoid future confusion (I hope)</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165014[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-h- the regular style</span> ESB-h we are all familiar with, the most commonly substitute baggie used in MP's ( soft bag single heat seal )</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165015[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-h- regular - variation????</span> ( soft bag single heat seal ), just to throw things out of whack a little ( oh boy ), I have noted there is also a slightly smaller version of this baggie type, in fact so small the figures are laid in the baggie diagonally as they will not fit vertically, at this time I am unclear as to if this is indeed a Kenner issued baggie at all or some obscure Euro possibly meccano?? baggie as yet unclassified, though could also just as easily be a standard ESB-h just smaller, I only have 2 available to cross check with so bit of a shot in the dark really - both the ones I have are no coo variants, hence my thinking they "could be" euro rather then kenner, but I thought this info should really be covered.</p><p></p><p>Note this smaller version has not been included in the group shot line up above till further investigation has been done - <span style="color: #FFFF00">if you have one like this I would like to hear from you </span></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 0)"><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">New info as of 5.11.21 -</span></span></strong> <span style="color: #cccccc">the smaller type has been confirmed to be of Euro origins & has been reclassified under the Euro-g designation on the non kenner guide </span></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165016[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-i</span> - ( Ex ESB-h - extra wide baggie ) now this one is about twice the size of a regular ESB-h baggie, they come with the weapons in a bit of sellotape, sometimes with the weapons taped to the body of the figure, it is <u>speculated </u> that these were offered to the employees of kenner as a cheap way to buy the figures & it has been suggested they were offered on "dollar tables" in the staff shop, though this baggie is not regarded by most as a general release bag offered to the general public, some have turned up from sealed store multi packs. ( soft bag single heat seal )</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165017[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Overstock / shipping case / substitute baggies - more details & new classifications below, but again baggies that have to date been lumped under the ESB-h umbrella heading</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165018[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-j</span> - ( Ex ESB-h 500 figure shipping case overstock baggie ) again one that has been found in sealed multi packs, assumed as a substitute for the regular baggie offered - soft bag twin heat seal</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]165019[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">ESB-k </span>- (Ex ESB-h type ) - very similar to the ESB-j but differing heat seals (came direct from Bill Wills - Co Author of the old SWCA baggie guide), a very rare bag & one I am TBH a little lost as to where is was offered if indeed it was ever offered on general sale, though it is more likely to have been one never intended for sale, but rather one used either internally as a sample or for opening & carding - Soft bag twin heat seal</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Frunkstar, post: 436850, member: 314"] [ATTACH type="full" alt="Kenner-ESB-ToyLine-logo_zpszeihzzam.png"]164990[/ATTACH] [COLOR=#FFFF00][SIZE=7]EMPIRE STRIKES BACK ERA BAGGIES[/SIZE][/COLOR] In this section again I hope to tackle some previously undocumented font variations as well as clear zoomed in photos of the actual font's beneath each baggie type [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1802_zps3fbxpxmd.jpg"]164991[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-a[/SIZE] - both 1st & 2nd issue as well as alternate font colour on the 2nd issue type shown above - soft bag heat sealed [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1803_zpsvyhivv2p.jpg"]164992[/ATTACH] Close up of all 3 side by side [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1788_zpszfam444x.jpg"]164993[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-a [/SIZE]- 1st & 2nd issues side by side - 1st issue on the right [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1789_zpsq3fuo1uo.jpg"]164994[/ATTACH] Close up of them side by side, this time 1st issue on the left [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1795_zpsb6klgt5e.jpg"]164995[/ATTACH] 2nd issue - both font colours shown light blue on left dark blue on right [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1790_zpsq742iakp.jpg"]164996[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-a - 1st issue[/SIZE] font [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1791_zpsypd3lvmd.jpg"]164997[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-a - 2nd issue [/SIZE](Light blue) font [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1794_zps3wwidyo9.jpg"]164998[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-a - 2nd issue[/SIZE] (dark blue) font [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1796_zpsutxry0bp.jpg"]164999[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-b [/SIZE]- only know to have existed in the Special offer (1st issue bounty hunters) Darth Vader collectors case ( IG88 / Bossk / Fett ) - soft bag heat sealed New info - the collectors case has been found on multiple occasions with the IG88 in the 1st issue ESB-a baggie, so there was some variation, making the IG88 one of the rarest known baggies (in the ESB-b baggie) [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1797_zpshnu6cgtw.jpg"]165000[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-b[/SIZE] - font close up [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1798_zpsvzfoastr.jpg"]165001[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-c [/SIZE]- above showing both font types (large & small) the small font would seem to be the earlier issue, Small font on the left - crisp bag tape sealed [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1799_zpsninc6vvb.jpg"]165002[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-c - 1st issue[/SIZE] Small font zoom [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1801_zpsrsteb2pm.jpg"]165003[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-c - 2nd issue[/SIZE] Large font zoom [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1804_zpsifpyu7qn.jpg"]165004[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-d[/SIZE] - pretty much identical to ESB-c large font version but heat sealed rather than taped - crisp bag heat sealed [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1805_zpsd8pvxzzi.jpg"]165005[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-d [/SIZE]- Font zoom [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1815_zpstgksfumc.jpg"]165006[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-e [/SIZE]- Kenner / General Mills logo - Soft bag heat sealed [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1816_zpse0urghtn.jpg"]165007[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-e [/SIZE]- Font zoom [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1806_zpszs5tsanu.jpg"]165008[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-f [/SIZE]- pretty much just a vertical rather than horizontal version of the ESB-a shown above, Soft bag heat sealed [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1807_zpsklwq7ecu.jpg"]165009[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-f[/SIZE] - font zoom [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1821_zpsyktc88vb.jpg"]165010[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-g[/SIZE] - Both font types shown above - V1 & V2, the V1 has Chunky text & the kenner box shows on the right hand side of the Made in China text, the V2 Has thin text & the Kenner box shows to the left of the Made in China text, or has on all examples I have seen of each style to date. both V1 & V2 - Soft bag heat sealed [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1818_zpsppc4neuz.jpg"]165011[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-g - V1[/SIZE] [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1822_zps4wbqwqwr.jpg"]165012[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-g - V2[/SIZE] [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1808%20-%20Copy_zpsmqwwq8of.jpg"]165013[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-h[/SIZE] baggies all shown above as they are classed to date, I am going to split these all up in to defined classification to avoid future confusion (I hope) [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1812_zps5v5ex9ab.jpg"]165014[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-h- the regular style[/SIZE] ESB-h we are all familiar with, the most commonly substitute baggie used in MP's ( soft bag single heat seal ) [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1824_zpslmyldjgl.jpg"]165015[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-h- regular - variation????[/SIZE] ( soft bag single heat seal ), just to throw things out of whack a little ( oh boy ), I have noted there is also a slightly smaller version of this baggie type, in fact so small the figures are laid in the baggie diagonally as they will not fit vertically, at this time I am unclear as to if this is indeed a Kenner issued baggie at all or some obscure Euro possibly meccano?? baggie as yet unclassified, though could also just as easily be a standard ESB-h just smaller, I only have 2 available to cross check with so bit of a shot in the dark really - both the ones I have are no coo variants, hence my thinking they "could be" euro rather then kenner, but I thought this info should really be covered. Note this smaller version has not been included in the group shot line up above till further investigation has been done - [COLOR=#FFFF00]if you have one like this I would like to hear from you [/COLOR] [B][COLOR=rgb(255, 255, 0)][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]New info as of 5.11.21 -[/COLOR][/COLOR][/B] [COLOR=#cccccc]the smaller type has been confirmed to be of Euro origins & has been reclassified under the Euro-g designation on the non kenner guide [/COLOR] [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1809_zpsi2lhbyut.jpg"]165016[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-i[/SIZE] - ( Ex ESB-h - extra wide baggie ) now this one is about twice the size of a regular ESB-h baggie, they come with the weapons in a bit of sellotape, sometimes with the weapons taped to the body of the figure, it is [U]speculated [/U] that these were offered to the employees of kenner as a cheap way to buy the figures & it has been suggested they were offered on "dollar tables" in the staff shop, though this baggie is not regarded by most as a general release bag offered to the general public, some have turned up from sealed store multi packs. ( soft bag single heat seal ) [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1826_zpsw4y0jbqt.jpg"]165017[/ATTACH] Overstock / shipping case / substitute baggies - more details & new classifications below, but again baggies that have to date been lumped under the ESB-h umbrella heading [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1814_zpscp9bho04.jpg"]165018[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-j[/SIZE] - ( Ex ESB-h 500 figure shipping case overstock baggie ) again one that has been found in sealed multi packs, assumed as a substitute for the regular baggie offered - soft bag twin heat seal [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGP1813_zpsl8zmm49n.jpg"]165019[/ATTACH] [SIZE=5]ESB-k [/SIZE]- (Ex ESB-h type ) - very similar to the ESB-j but differing heat seals (came direct from Bill Wills - Co Author of the old SWCA baggie guide), a very rare bag & one I am TBH a little lost as to where is was offered if indeed it was ever offered on general sale, though it is more likely to have been one never intended for sale, but rather one used either internally as a sample or for opening & carding - Soft bag twin heat seal [/QUOTE]
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