Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New media
New media comments
New profile posts
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles and first posts only
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Forums
Vintage Star Wars Collecting
Vintage Collecting Chat
Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="ace" data-source="post: 257939" data-attributes="member: 5300"><p>Hi Joe is ok and i understand your fear, as i say i expected to have some intense conversations in entering this forum, some decent collectors do look out for each other and as they stories have gone un defended for years they have gone around and have gotten bigger and bigger so its fine, i must say there are people that now better about me and have not bothered to step in to correct things when maybe they know another view to the facts but its very interesting how some that maybe i would have thought might have steeped in over the years did not :-\ , anyway i never really bothered to make lots of friends in the community and maybe thats my pay back , there seems to be a lot less rivalry in here and maybe now days its nicer than it was back then ? , that was why i started to stay away from the collecting community and kept my self to myself as i got no fun from hang out with some of the either collectors, you could not win in a way , if you have something cool or interesting and told them what you had found they would say that dose not exist and i am a lier , then you show them it and they they get all jealous and do not want to talk to you , you can see the way i have answered some of the posts on here i am very used to this kind of response , its not really a fun thing to have to do on everything you show or talk about , i am bothering to prove everything i say on here as i am trying to show people what i am and that what i say is for real , in the past i have to say i just could not be bothered and just felt that if you do not believe me thats your ignorance and left them to it , so that may help in people understanding me a little , the only thing i will admit to being my fault, is being cocky and a little arrogant in my youth , i have grown up over the years and mellowed a bit ?</p><p></p><p>now to your points </p><p></p><p>point 1 </p><p></p><p>i can say i have never knowingly sold or traded a prop that was not what i thought it was.</p><p></p><p>i have been offered fakes many of them over the years.</p><p></p><p>i have even bought one or two things that have turned out to be fake.</p><p></p><p>i have even had things that i have owned and have been sent away to be repaired then to find out the scumbag has copied it and then the crook has sold a copy or tried to sell copies as real ,that has happened to me also.</p><p></p><p>but i have never sold something knowingly that i knew was not what i thought it was .</p><p></p><p>so know i have not knowingly sold a fake.</p><p></p><p>i hope that clear that up for you so if you want to bring me some of the stories thats fine but can i ask one thing as its all on me here , can you tell me what you have a story who is saying it please , as i think thats fare and i also thing a lot of these stories do come from one or two people originally, is that fair to ask , i am doing my part here , i think its only fair i know who my accuser is and then they also come forward and share a little of what i am having to deal with here ? let me know if you think that is fare ?</p><p></p><p>point 2 </p><p></p><p>Toni , as i have said before i feel he should have the space to respond before i go into this any more really , it what i fee should have happened to me and everyone should have the chance to respond before a mob action starts up , i have been on the front end i feel of a mob and its hard to deal with for most people , the important thing here is finding out the truth so everyone knows the truth and then they can valuate the impact of things in there own way , for me my collection was never about money it was about owning the item its self so what it cost me back in the past or whats it worth was and is irrelevant t me and all i wanted to do was own it , thats just my thoughts behind all of this , so lets leave this for Toni to come back on .</p><p></p><p>point 3 </p><p></p><p>well as i say there are lots of storeys out there , and yes i was a ruthless collector that i am guilty of , was i cocky yep i was , i was also good at what i did find stuff , i have not done anything underhand knowingly and i stand buy that , you say about a person i was involved with a altercation with ? in the time i was retailing from the age of 13 to 30 years there was insolence wear things got heated , like the time i was at kempton park racecourse i was 18 and i single handily caught 3 members of the same gang that was stealing good from traders , i got a thank you from the police and the organises and the traders that got there stock back , it was in the collators gazette i think at the time ? so yes i will get involved if needed like i do at all the event i run , i have caught over 100 + thieves over the years some have come quietly some have not , its part of my job to protect the shows and the traders and you will here there is very little thieving at my events , as to an indent relating to a prop i do not ever remember such an incident , but as we agreed bring me the story and if you can who is perpetuating it and i will try to help clear it up ok <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />.</p><p></p><p></p><p>one more thing Joe thank you for being more open and cooler on these matters it dose help the proses and in time you will see i have no plans to lie on anything i just want to put my side of things over and it will become clear who i am so think you.</p><p></p><p>j</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ace, post: 257939, member: 5300"] Hi Joe is ok and i understand your fear, as i say i expected to have some intense conversations in entering this forum, some decent collectors do look out for each other and as they stories have gone un defended for years they have gone around and have gotten bigger and bigger so its fine, i must say there are people that now better about me and have not bothered to step in to correct things when maybe they know another view to the facts but its very interesting how some that maybe i would have thought might have steeped in over the years did not :-\ , anyway i never really bothered to make lots of friends in the community and maybe thats my pay back , there seems to be a lot less rivalry in here and maybe now days its nicer than it was back then ? , that was why i started to stay away from the collecting community and kept my self to myself as i got no fun from hang out with some of the either collectors, you could not win in a way , if you have something cool or interesting and told them what you had found they would say that dose not exist and i am a lier , then you show them it and they they get all jealous and do not want to talk to you , you can see the way i have answered some of the posts on here i am very used to this kind of response , its not really a fun thing to have to do on everything you show or talk about , i am bothering to prove everything i say on here as i am trying to show people what i am and that what i say is for real , in the past i have to say i just could not be bothered and just felt that if you do not believe me thats your ignorance and left them to it , so that may help in people understanding me a little , the only thing i will admit to being my fault, is being cocky and a little arrogant in my youth , i have grown up over the years and mellowed a bit ? now to your points point 1 i can say i have never knowingly sold or traded a prop that was not what i thought it was. i have been offered fakes many of them over the years. i have even bought one or two things that have turned out to be fake. i have even had things that i have owned and have been sent away to be repaired then to find out the scumbag has copied it and then the crook has sold a copy or tried to sell copies as real ,that has happened to me also. but i have never sold something knowingly that i knew was not what i thought it was . so know i have not knowingly sold a fake. i hope that clear that up for you so if you want to bring me some of the stories thats fine but can i ask one thing as its all on me here , can you tell me what you have a story who is saying it please , as i think thats fare and i also thing a lot of these stories do come from one or two people originally, is that fair to ask , i am doing my part here , i think its only fair i know who my accuser is and then they also come forward and share a little of what i am having to deal with here ? let me know if you think that is fare ? point 2 Toni , as i have said before i feel he should have the space to respond before i go into this any more really , it what i fee should have happened to me and everyone should have the chance to respond before a mob action starts up , i have been on the front end i feel of a mob and its hard to deal with for most people , the important thing here is finding out the truth so everyone knows the truth and then they can valuate the impact of things in there own way , for me my collection was never about money it was about owning the item its self so what it cost me back in the past or whats it worth was and is irrelevant t me and all i wanted to do was own it , thats just my thoughts behind all of this , so lets leave this for Toni to come back on . point 3 well as i say there are lots of storeys out there , and yes i was a ruthless collector that i am guilty of , was i cocky yep i was , i was also good at what i did find stuff , i have not done anything underhand knowingly and i stand buy that , you say about a person i was involved with a altercation with ? in the time i was retailing from the age of 13 to 30 years there was insolence wear things got heated , like the time i was at kempton park racecourse i was 18 and i single handily caught 3 members of the same gang that was stealing good from traders , i got a thank you from the police and the organises and the traders that got there stock back , it was in the collators gazette i think at the time ? so yes i will get involved if needed like i do at all the event i run , i have caught over 100 + thieves over the years some have come quietly some have not , its part of my job to protect the shows and the traders and you will here there is very little thieving at my events , as to an indent relating to a prop i do not ever remember such an incident , but as we agreed bring me the story and if you can who is perpetuating it and i will try to help clear it up ok :-). one more thing Joe thank you for being more open and cooler on these matters it dose help the proses and in time you will see i have no plans to lie on anything i just want to put my side of things over and it will become clear who i am so think you. j [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Vintage Star Wars Collecting
Vintage Collecting Chat
Resealed figure discovery debate - G.Kurtz Palitoy VC Jawa.
Top
Bottom