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<blockquote data-quote="TheJabbaWookie" data-source="post: 468461" data-attributes="member: 9217"><p>Only just got round to adding my sixpence worth. Like many others there are bits I liked and bits that made me cringe. Many are covered here already.</p><p></p><p>I was largely disappointed with the scenes on Ahch-To, the whole handling of Luke's character was humiliating, and all the most comically tragic SW creature creations reside here. There is a lot of hate for the Porgs but why they felt the need to include Mr. Toad from The Wind in the Willows fresh from breaking out of prison dressed as a washer woman I'll never know.</p><p></p><p>I really didn't like the Canto Bight scenes either, didn't see what it added to the film and the characters there compared unfavourably to the worst characters in The Phantom Menace. Gareth Edwards did such a good job with the characters in Jedah in R1 in comparison.</p><p></p><p>But I did like the Kylo Ren character development and his conflict between dark and light. Shame that Supreme Leader Snoke was a master of the force, had been inside Kylo's mind but couldn't see his own demise. I didn't buy that.</p><p></p><p>The thing that I didn't buy most of all though and I'm not sure if it's been mentioned here or not is that Rey is such a master of the force without training. It took Luke years of training to be competent in the ways of The Force, we saw him take ages training with Yoda to move a single rock in ESB but we are expected to buy into Rey moving all the rocks with minimal training. She doesn't even look focussed in some of the scene. Even Yoda had to focus in lifting the x-Wing or in his battle with Emperor Palpatine.</p><p></p><p>In the end I guess Rogue 1 is a movie for the Star Wars fans that grew up with the OT whereas TLJ is a movie for a new breed of Star Wars fans. It would never live up to our nostalgic past, and as kids we were prepared to overlook some of the elements we would be critical of as adults today if we were watching it for the first time and not reliving our youth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheJabbaWookie, post: 468461, member: 9217"] Only just got round to adding my sixpence worth. Like many others there are bits I liked and bits that made me cringe. Many are covered here already. I was largely disappointed with the scenes on Ahch-To, the whole handling of Luke’s character was humiliating, and all the most comically tragic SW creature creations reside here. There is a lot of hate for the Porgs but why they felt the need to include Mr. Toad from The Wind in the Willows fresh from breaking out of prison dressed as a washer woman I’ll never know. I really didn’t like the Canto Bight scenes either, didn’t see what it added to the film and the characters there compared unfavourably to the worst characters in The Phantom Menace. Gareth Edwards did such a good job with the characters in Jedah in R1 in comparison. But I did like the Kylo Ren character development and his conflict between dark and light. Shame that Supreme Leader Snoke was a master of the force, had been inside Kylo’s mind but couldn’t see his own demise. I didn’t buy that. The thing that I didn’t buy most of all though and I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned here or not is that Rey is such a master of the force without training. It took Luke years of training to be competent in the ways of The Force, we saw him take ages training with Yoda to move a single rock in ESB but we are expected to buy into Rey moving all the rocks with minimal training. She doesn’t even look focussed in some of the scene. Even Yoda had to focus in lifting the x-Wing or in his battle with Emperor Palpatine. In the end I guess Rogue 1 is a movie for the Star Wars fans that grew up with the OT whereas TLJ is a movie for a new breed of Star Wars fans. It would never live up to our nostalgic past, and as kids we were prepared to overlook some of the elements we would be critical of as adults today if we were watching it for the first time and not reliving our youth. [/QUOTE]
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