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<blockquote data-quote="weasel" data-source="post: 567390" data-attributes="member: 14"><p>I kind of agree and kind of don't on ETH.</p><p></p><p>Anyone who takes over Utd must know that most of that squad are deadwood who should be ****ed out at the first opportunity. For all we know ETH has been begging the Board to sell the lot of them. I know Utd accepted an offer for Fat Maguire last year so they are sort of trying.</p><p>The inability to shift players is one of Utd's problems and the manager is only partly responsible for that. Any new manager will be hamstrung by that same issue.</p><p></p><p>Saying that, Utd have regressed this year. In hindsight they probably over achieved last year, at least in terms of league position. Helped by Liverpool's implosion and Chelsea being Chelsea. Even at that, we still don't know what Utd's style of play is. 'Be **** but rely on the other side not taking their chances and then nick a goal' is not a tactic I have heard any manager use. They are also unable to shut down a game. The FAC semi was a prime example, but their CL campaign was just as bad, the two games against Copenhagen they led by 2 goals and got 1 point (I think). Freak results can happen and even the best teams lose from winning positions but at Utd it happens far too often and that is on the manager. Even if the players are all tactical muppets, and they aren't they are all seasoned international, he trains them every week and has done for two years. Look how quickly Emery turned Villa into well disciplined side and he has been there for less time than ETH has been at Utd (and Villa's players aren't as good).</p><p></p><p>It may be easier for the new guys to sack ETH, get whoever in and build the background set up to his liking and that way it is fresh start all round. That obviously relies on the new guy being half decent and not Moyesy mark 2. I dunno it's a gamble either way. I wouldn't be surprised if Utd fired him, nor would I be surprised if he got another year. </p><p>The fans are on the cusp of turning against him though and that's never a good place for a manager to be. Even at Liverpool's worst last year no one was calling for Klopp to go.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="weasel, post: 567390, member: 14"] I kind of agree and kind of don't on ETH. Anyone who takes over Utd must know that most of that squad are deadwood who should be ****ed out at the first opportunity. For all we know ETH has been begging the Board to sell the lot of them. I know Utd accepted an offer for Fat Maguire last year so they are sort of trying. The inability to shift players is one of Utd's problems and the manager is only partly responsible for that. Any new manager will be hamstrung by that same issue. Saying that, Utd have regressed this year. In hindsight they probably over achieved last year, at least in terms of league position. Helped by Liverpool's implosion and Chelsea being Chelsea. Even at that, we still don't know what Utd's style of play is. 'Be **** but rely on the other side not taking their chances and then nick a goal' is not a tactic I have heard any manager use. They are also unable to shut down a game. The FAC semi was a prime example, but their CL campaign was just as bad, the two games against Copenhagen they led by 2 goals and got 1 point (I think). Freak results can happen and even the best teams lose from winning positions but at Utd it happens far too often and that is on the manager. Even if the players are all tactical muppets, and they aren't they are all seasoned international, he trains them every week and has done for two years. Look how quickly Emery turned Villa into well disciplined side and he has been there for less time than ETH has been at Utd (and Villa's players aren't as good). It may be easier for the new guys to sack ETH, get whoever in and build the background set up to his liking and that way it is fresh start all round. That obviously relies on the new guy being half decent and not Moyesy mark 2. I dunno it's a gamble either way. I wouldn't be surprised if Utd fired him, nor would I be surprised if he got another year. The fans are on the cusp of turning against him though and that's never a good place for a manager to be. Even at Liverpool's worst last year no one was calling for Klopp to go. [/QUOTE]
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