MOC AFA Bubble

Newbie question if I buy a MOC afa (for example Bubble 80) that happens if the bubble is damaged after the next 10 years, in the acrylic seal ??

It's the chance you take with graded items. Once they are fully sealed in those cases, damage can happen at any time.... mostly during shipping as the bubble cannot be protected.

Best option is to buy a nice ungraded example, then put into a superb GW Acrylic case... Looks exactly the same (if not better).

Will become a big problem over the next 10-20 years if you look at how brittle bubbles are becoming. More and more getting damaged even ungraded that allow for some level or protection, but completely unprotected bubbles in AFA cases are ticking time bombs in the postal system. They'll eventually become almost impossible to post with risk of significant damage.

Agree with the sentiment above; crack it out and re-case it more sensibly in a GW Acrylic sliding bottom case

Depends if your sending it of in the post again, if your keeping it what's the point in breaking a perfectly good case?

Unless your like me and you want all the cases to match, then why buy a graded one in the first place?

I want a graded directly because I'm afraid of fakes, I'm not expert enough but beginner.

xaar said:

I want a graded directly because I'm afraid of fakes, I'm not expert enough but beginner.

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There is no rush when you're a beginner to run out and buy loads, spend some time here, read a book or two and learn how to spot fakes. Thankfully (in the most part) fakes are pretty easy to spot. A lot of guys on here will be very helpful if you get a picture of a potential purchase to verify its validity.
I'd personally recommend buying a few cheap pieces first too, that way you can see in hand what a real (but maybe poor quality) real item looks and feels like, take a look at the MOCs under £50 thread on here, loads of stuff out there at bargain prices and the benefit (and small initial cost) of such an education will far out weigh the cost of any more expensive mistake later on!

here's the link:

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=29679

I think that the time some of these carded figures can't be posted will soon be upon us. If not already here.
I bought a really nice Lumat all be it with a yellow bubble, from a well trusted guy last week, only to receive it with a nasty crack and hole in the top of the bubble where his ear had come through during posting.
I will certainly think twice about posting yellow bubbles and will keep my MOC in GW acrylic cases rather yhan risk posting them for grading.
I see a graded figure as that was the grade when it was graded, it might not be like that now or in the future.

xaar said:

Newbie question if I buy a MOC afa (for example Bubble 80) that happens if the bubble is damaged after the next 10 years, in the acrylic seal ??

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If it gets damage then it gets damage if regraded it will not get the same grade, there will be no warranty from AFA. If you buy a new car and crash it 5 years later, that's exactly what happens with your graded MOC. :lol:

Yes but if in time the bubble is damaged, I will always have the figure 80 graded in the acrylic box so it will be a lie if I sell it

All that to say that can be when we buy a figurine today graded bubble 80 can be already false

You don't need to buy them graded if your worried about the bubble. As afew have said the bubble can't be protected once it's sealed in the case if your posting.

But I'm afraid of fakes and for resale and for protection it's better
It's a complicated vintage world collection :lol:

xaar said:

But I'm afraid of fakes and for resale and for protection it's better
It's a complicated vintage world collection :lol:

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Graded MOCs are not better protected, they are more vulnerable as the bubble is not supported

You definitely don't want to start a GG MOC graded focus! :lol:

There is no guarantee that the MoC is a genuine factory sealed piece just because it is graded. AFA and UKG have graded hundreds of toytonis down the years... Best advice is still to do your research and not rely on these so called experts at the grading companies.

You also have to remember that even if it's graded it doesn't mean it's a fake. Read up on the Toy Toni scandal. Original figures, bubbles and cards but not sealed at the factory. Duped both AFA and UK Graders and many a hard core collector too.

If you want to go down the MOC route you are, as already mentioned, better off doing a bit of research. Plenty of info on here and on Rebelscum.. all with collectors that are more than happy to offer help and advise. It's not something you want to jump into lightly.

** Edit.. Lom beat me to the TT mention as I was typing **

This is why I will never buy palitoy or general mills rotj or vcj meccano

This may be the u grades afa :lol:

xaar said:

This is why I will never buy palitoy or general mills rotj or vcj meccano

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Wish I can choose not to buy a Meccano VCJ if offered!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you know your stuff and you're buying from trusted sellers why buy graded?

You're paying ridiculous premium for a sticker and a case, don't get sucked into craziness.

Admittedly I've 3 graded MOC ( had 4 but I busted one out its case) however I got 2 of these from forum members and 1 from eBay and paid for them what I'd expect to pay for ungraded I versions.

The bubble protection is non-existant on graded items. It's even questionable for ungraded items, but at least seller like Iain Sanderson goes to great length to protect the item.